Rants: Everyday Venting

[Cecilia Peromi]

Poor Sila... you've had a rough life haven't you?

[Silaluk]

I have food, running water, Wi-Fi, and a roof over my head. I can't say I should complain.

[Cecilia Peromi]

Sure you have all of that now. But that doesn't change the fact that you've been through quite a lot. At least you're doing well now. That's the important thing.

[Silaluk]

Going to be completely honest, people who are therian/otherkin annoy me.


I don't consider myself therian because, while I do believe that people can take on the spirits of animals and vice versa, it's a personal spiritual belief than anything else. It's in my religion. And I believe that people who exploit those ideas because they think they're "cool" or "different" without actually learning the meaning and where those ideas come from, are scum.

[George]

Going to be completely honest, people who are therian/otherkin annoy me.


I don't consider myself therian because, while I do believe that people can take on the spirits of animals and vice versa, it's a personal spiritual belief than anything else. It's in my religion. And I believe that people who exploit those ideas because they think they're "cool" or "different" without actually learning the meaning and where those ideas come from, are scum.

So according to this post, you're the only person who's allowed to have these beliefs, and everyone else with them are "scum"?


I guess that says everything we need to know about you.

[Grey]

I've run out of cheeseburgers. It is a disaster!

[George]

Going to be completely honest, people who are therian/otherkin annoy me.


I don't consider myself therian because, while I do believe that people can take on the spirits of animals and vice versa, it's a personal spiritual belief than anything else. It's in my religion. And I believe that people who exploit those ideas because they think they're "cool" or "different" without actually learning the meaning and where those ideas come from, are scum.

So according to this post, you're the only person who's allowed to have these beliefs, and everyone else with them are "scum"?


I guess that says everything we need to know about you.

That's not what she said.

OT: I dislike people who argue without thinking twice about what they're saying. Maybe try understanding the other's point of view before replying.

She said that a specific type of person annoys her, then went on to say that she thinks of herself as one but other people who do it are "scum". The first line is problem enough, then pretending to "justify" it by saying she's somehow better?

@Grey: Do you at least have burritos?

[George]

Going to be completely honest, people who are therian/otherkin annoy me.


I don't consider myself therian because, while I do believe that people can take on the spirits of animals and vice versa, it's a personal spiritual belief than anything else. It's in my religion. And I believe that people who exploit those ideas because they think they're "cool" or "different" without actually learning the meaning and where those ideas come from, are scum.

So according to this post, you're the only person who's allowed to have these beliefs, and everyone else with them are "scum"?


I guess that says everything we need to know about you.

That's not what she said.

OT: I dislike people who argue without thinking twice about what they're saying. Maybe try understanding the other's point of view before replying.

She said that a specific type of person annoys her, then went on to say that she thinks of herself as one but other people who do it are "scum". The first line is problem enough, then pretending to "justify" it by saying she's somehow better?

First: You have every right in the world to be annoyed at a certain kind of people. It's not a judgment about them. I am annoyed by overly sensitive people, which does not mean they are bad people. It's a personal opinion which you can't deny anyone.
Second: She never actually said that no one other than her can be "therian" or "otherkin" or whatever. She said that the idea at the heart of these believs lays in the ancient spiritual practices of her people (and not only them, to be entirely honest). It has deep spiritual, historical and anthropologic roots. And whoever does not know them or ignores them, instead pursuing such a belief or "lifestyle" only because he think it's cool or fashionable, is scum. Which is true. If you adhere to a belief without knowing where it comes from you're either shallow or ignorant.

See, Silaluk never actually said that therians or otherkin people are ALWAYS scum. Only those that do not know the deeper meaning and roots of their belief.

But what if they're not part of the same religion as her? What if they simply feel like they'd be more comfortable as a different animal?

[Silaluk]

Why are you all arguing about it?

Scum was probably too strong of a word, but arguing over it isn't going to make me take back what I said. Just drop the matter, I wasn't picking a fight.

[George]

Going to be completely honest, people who are therian/otherkin annoy me.


I don't consider myself therian because, while I do believe that people can take on the spirits of animals and vice versa, it's a personal spiritual belief than anything else. It's in my religion. And I believe that people who exploit those ideas because they think they're "cool" or "different" without actually learning the meaning and where those ideas come from, are scum.

So according to this post, you're the only person who's allowed to have these beliefs, and everyone else with them are "scum"?


I guess that says everything we need to know about you.

That's not what she said.

OT: I dislike people who argue without thinking twice about what they're saying. Maybe try understanding the other's point of view before replying.

She said that a specific type of person annoys her, then went on to say that she thinks of herself as one but other people who do it are "scum". The first line is problem enough, then pretending to "justify" it by saying she's somehow better?

First: You have every right in the world to be annoyed at a certain kind of people. It's not a judgment about them. I am annoyed by overly sensitive people, which does not mean they are bad people. It's a personal opinion which you can't deny anyone.
Second: She never actually said that no one other than her can be "therian" or "otherkin" or whatever. She said that the idea at the heart of these believs lays in the ancient spiritual practices of her people (and not only them, to be entirely honest). It has deep spiritual, historical and anthropologic roots. And whoever does not know them or ignores them, instead pursuing such a belief or "lifestyle" only because he think it's cool or fashionable, is scum. Which is true. If you adhere to a belief without knowing where it comes from you're either shallow or ignorant.

See, Silaluk never actually said that therians or otherkin people are ALWAYS scum. Only those that do not know the deeper meaning and roots of their belief.

But what if they're not part of the same religion as her? What if they simply feel like they'd be more comfortable as a different animal?

You're looking at it the wrong way. You don't have to be part of any religion to be therian or otherkin. Mostly because traditional native american beliefs are more diverse spiritual practices rather than religions in the western meaning of the word. But you have to know about and, hopefully, understand the roots of the belief.

That last part is where I disagree. It's too absolute and exclusive. It implies the only type of otherkin is Native American spirituality. There's a huge difference between wanting a different body and believing you're spiritually connected to a different animal. That's why Therian and 0therkin are even different words.

@Sila: Because it came across as rude, and someone I care deeply about is otherkin but not religious.

[Silaluk]

@Sila: Because it came across as rude, and someone I care deeply about is otherkin but not religious.

Then take your drama somewhere else, fighting isn't tolerated on this thread anyway.
I don't care if it was rude, I can and will vent about whatever the hell I want. I wasn't personally attacking anyone here.

[Grey]

I was gonna say something similar. Anyways, I need to get a new battery charger. My brother pinches them and when they resurface they're always busted.

He's a goon.

[George]

Reposting for awareness:

Silaluk is too brutal for 90% of this forum.

Actually, make that something like 96%.

2edgy4me

Also why is the text so tiny?

[Silaluk]

I'm gonna put that in my signature.


OT: People who never pronounce my name(s) right even after telling them how to do it.

[Cecilia Peromi]

Guys guys, please don't fight.