Furry Hatred

[BennyJackdaw]

Maybe if furries wouldn't churn out enormous amounts of mega-kinky porn AND if they could keep themselves from posting it everywhere online for all to see then we wouldn't get so many strange looks. Yeah, consenting adults/private fantasies and all that, but once you show it off to other people you honestly have to accept that you are going to get some grief thrown your way, especially if it involves things not considered mainstream.


I mean, seriously, being into anthropomorphism is odd enough on its own. Making yourself seem stranger in comparison to other people is only going to make the target on your back that much larger.

I've had multiple furries literally surprised that I'm not into yiff, if that tells you anything. People are joining the fandom thinking it's entirely a fetish. It seems there's only a small portion that aren't in the fandom entirely for that now, and an even smaller portion not into it at all. The "only 10% of furries are yiffers" myth is full of crap, as far as I can tell. So many times people don't even bother to realize this is a PG-13 forum because they're so used to being able to flaunt their foxnoodle around on most furry sites, but once they do figure it out, they whine about it like they're oppressed.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but the perverted side of the fandom really grinds my gears. I personally have no problem with people enjoying yiff, but holy shit, people, when you get that obsessed with sex you need help. That goes if you're a furry or otherwise.

Are you two from the Fur Affinity Forums? Because your anti-furry BS sure makes it sound like it.

That's their problem if they want to hate you for looking at furry porn. I don't like it either, but it's not like it hurts anyone. What DOES hurt people is the excessive hate surrounding us. That's why whenever I hear "just ignore them," I want to bash that person with a club. Ignoring is just pretending it doesn't exist, but in the end, idiots will STILL hate you. Your life will still be hell. No amount of "ignoring" is going to help. People have resorted to just giving up everything they like and caving into "humans are absolute good" type media because of ***holes who want to make their lives hell for being a furry. So sorry, but "Ignore them" is something I just cannot do. I try to explain that being a furry just means you like anthropomorphic characters when I can, and if people treat me like dirt for being a furry, I treat them the same way. You may think I'm an ***hole for this, but in fact I try to be as nice as possible to most people. I just think some people don't warrant being nice to.

Someone needs to put something on the media that sets the record straight. I hope something like this happens soon.

[Rocco Rex]

I actually look for comments against us. Not to rebuke them, but to try to figure out why they think that way and see if I can change their mind. If no one ever tries to figure them out and enlighten them, then how will they ever learn that we aren't a bunch of creeps? (Although I do go on the offense when I know for a fact they are a troll )

[Grovygrunge]

Maybe if furries wouldn't churn out enormous amounts of mega-kinky porn AND if they could keep themselves from posting it everywhere online for all to see then we wouldn't get so many strange looks. Yeah, consenting adults/private fantasies and all that, but once you show it off to other people you honestly have to accept that you are going to get some grief thrown your way, especially if it involves things not considered mainstream.


I mean, seriously, being into anthropomorphism is odd enough on its own. Making yourself seem stranger in comparison to other people is only going to make the target on your back that much larger.

I've had multiple furries literally surprised that I'm not into yiff, if that tells you anything. People are joining the fandom thinking it's entirely a fetish. It seems there's only a small portion that aren't in the fandom entirely for that now, and an even smaller portion not into it at all. The "only 10% of furries are yiffers" myth is full of crap, as far as I can tell. So many times people don't even bother to realize this is a PG-13 forum because they're so used to being able to flaunt their foxnoodle around on most furry sites, but once they do figure it out, they whine about it like they're oppressed.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but the perverted side of the fandom really grinds my gears. I personally have no problem with people enjoying yiff, but holy shit, people, when you get that obsessed with sex you need help. That goes if you're a furry or otherwise.

Are you two from the Fur Affinity Forums? Because your anti-furry BS sure makes it sound like it.

That's their problem if they want to hate you for looking at furry porn. I don't like it either, but it's not like it hurts anyone. What DOES hurt people is the excessive hate surrounding us. That's why whenever I hear "just ignore them," I want to bash that person with a club. Ignoring is just pretending it doesn't exist, but in the end, idiots will STILL hate you. Your life will still be hell. No amount of "ignoring" is going to help. People have resorted to just giving up everything they like and caving into "humans are absolute good" type media because of ***holes who want to make their lives hell for being a furry. So sorry, but "Ignore them" is something I just cannot do. I try to explain that being a furry just means you like anthropomorphic characters when I can, and if people treat me like dirt for being a furry, I treat them the same way. You may think I'm an ***hole for this, but in fact I try to be as nice as possible to most people. I just think some people don't warrant being nice to.

Someone needs to put something on the media that sets the record straight. I hope something like this happens soon.

Benny, I have several issues with what you've said here. The first being that you literally just called two furries "Anti furry". I mean just... think about that. That doesn't make sense. I mean can you read?


I'm sorry if I'm being offensive here but I just can't see where you got that impression from.


Also there have been multiple things in the media that tried to "set the record straight" also. Also I have noticed for a long while that "anti furry" stuff in the media is all but non existent. So really it's just internet trollers and haters. If you can't ignore those type of people that's a shame because they are never going away and you can't convince them they're wrong. Either cuz they don't believe what they're saying and find annoying you funny or because they don't care about what you have to say to begin with.

[ST-84 Sahelanthropus]

Are you two from the Fur Affinity Forums? Because your anti-furry BS sure makes it sound like it.

Benny, I have several issues with what you've said here. The first being that you literally just called two furries "Anti furry". I mean just... think about that. That doesn't make sense. I mean can you read?

Fur Affinity Forums is chock full of ceaseless furry-deprecation to the extreme. I was almost going to say "I used to be a regular of FAF", but I don't think one could consider themselves a regular of a place if one couldn't even stand being there for a week. All the cool people on there are always the ones who constantly have to make some sort of 'joke' about how disgusting, perverted, and insane furries are. On there, forum posts can be liked, and the posts with the most likes are often ones that deride the fandom in some way. Maybe it's just a dumb running gag or something to them, but I didn't find it enjoyable to have to read all the time.

That said, I wouldn't say Halei-Helai or Evnamishko were exhibiting FAF-levels of anti-furry talk. Even though I myself am probably the particular kind of furry that the two of them wouldn't like, heheh..

[The Past]

I don't go around talking shit about furries because I judge people on an individual basis, and I know plenty of respectful people in the fandom, but I'm not gonna turn a blind eye to the widespread "gross" side, especially when it has become the main recruiter, so to speak.
I don't even go on FA or the forums, personally. Mostly because of that side, and the mentioned negativity on there is another good reason to avoid it. I'm not a prude (and people who know me well are sure of that!), but I try to avoid people with a slimy fetish obsession they like to parade around. As I said:

That goes if you're a furry or otherwise.

It's not the furry part, or even the sexual part, it's the public flaunting of perversion. And unfortunately much of the people like that happen to be furries, which is why the fandom has that reputation, and that reputation attracts more people like that, and so on. It's a cycle of foxnoodle waggling.

[BennyJackdaw]

I don't go around talking shit about furries because I judge people on an individual basis, and I know plenty of respectful people in the fandom, but I'm not gonna turn a blind eye to the widespread "gross" side, especially when it has become the main recruiter, so to speak.
I don't even go on FA or the forums, personally. Mostly because of that side, and the mentioned negativity on there is another good reason to avoid it. I'm not a prude (and people who know me well are sure of that!), but I try to avoid people with a slimy fetish obsession they like to parade around. As I said:

That goes if you're a furry or otherwise.

It's not the furry part, or even the sexual part, it's the public flaunting of perversion. And unfortunately much of the people like that happen to be furries, which is why the fandom has that reputation, and that reputation attracts more people like that, and so on. It's a cycle of foxnoodle waggling.

I'm not saying there aren't some sick furries out there, but acting like "no, the stereotypes about us are 100% correct" will end up making it worse for the furries who aren't sick. In turn, it will ultimately destroy the fandom entirely if we just cave in to the perception of other people. So sorry I took offense at your comments, but I hate seeing furries being talked about so flippantly, even from other furries.

If you can't ignore those type of people that's a shame because they are never going away and you can't convince them they're wrong.

They never go away regardless. I've tried ignoring. I've tried it for years. Then I realized that "ignoring" is just something people tell you to make you weak. Plus, if you "ignore" them, then they get away with insulting you, and you've done nothing about it but just stand there and take the punishment. Basically, ignorance is just something people spread to give bullies the idea that they can be as mean and horrible as they want without consequence. THAT is why I hate "ignoring."

[Midnight Madness]

Benny, on the topic of ignoring... You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about because you clearly have no idea what it means.

When people ignore bullies and haters, it just means they refuse to be offended by the attackers. And the proper way to handle it is to report it to someone with the power to force them to stop. You know, the smart thing to do?  Making them not worth your time and whatnot? The only weak people are the ones who always get offended or can be so easily manipulated by a bully to be 'forced' to react.

The word you're looking for is denial. Google it.

[Grovygrunge]

Benny, on the topic of ignoring... You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about because you clearly have no idea what it means.

When people ignore bullies and haters, it just means they refuse to be offended by the attackers. And the proper way yo handle it is to report it to someone with the power to force them to stop. You know, the smart thing to do?  Making them not worth your time and whatnot? The only weak people are the ones who always get offended or can be so easily manipulated by a bully to be 'forced' to react.

The word you're looking for is denial. Google it.

Exactly what I meant to say but said by someone who actually knows how to say things the way they mean them.

[BennyJackdaw]

Benny, on the topic of ignoring... You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about because you clearly have no idea what it means.

When people ignore bullies and haters, it just means they refuse to be offended by the attackers. And the proper way to handle it is to report it to someone with the power to force them to stop. You know, the smart thing to do?  Making them not worth your time and whatnot? The only weak people are the ones who always get offended or can be so easily manipulated by a bully to be 'forced' to react.

The word you're looking for is denial. Google it.

Those "People who have the power" never do jack about bullies. They just say "oh, it's the internet. blah blah blah." Often times, those "people who have the power" are bullies themselves. Plus, you're not "refusing to get offended" by ignoring them, you're just letting them succeed in bullying you by giving them no form of punishment. I'm not "in denial" just because I have good reasons to hate the whole "ignoring" concept.

Let me also put one more example. I remember a lot of times I was bullied, and I retaliated and stood up for myself those instances, those moments are now mostly forgotten. Then I remembered the times I ignored bullies, and those instances are STILL eating away. The only way to release that frustration is to let it out on those bullies, but since those bullies are people you don't see anymore, those moments of anger carry on through your life. In a way, ignoring makes bullying even WORSE, and to this day I still regret the instances I "ignored" bullies.

But this topic is not about "Ignoring" it's about hatred towards furries.

[Midnight Madness]

I made one comment, so don't get sassy or that might mean trouble, because that's my job, dig? But, well, the fact you can't come to terms with those bullies is your own fault. I had mine and I have long since gotten over them. If you can't, then tough. Time to get in touch with reality Benny - your brain is a muscle too, and you're not using it because you seem to think I was accusing you of being in denial in that post. Likewise, I want you to have documented proof in multiple sources that shows me the people in power don't do anything. You seem to forget I am a person in power, and I do plenty to keep the trolls away.

Learn to control yourself instead of trying to control others. You only becomes as bad as the bully when you use the same methods to get them to stop.

[Crest Is Dead ((For Now))]

Well this got heated fast. I mean i always knew it was gonna be a touchy subject which got me excited but I mean. I see both sides. I do understand that in some level you have to stand up to bullies but the way you're say in I Benny Is like you're say in it's the only option. I've had bullies, not many thankfully as I'm quite a tall chap so people are scared of me, but nice always ignored them. Didn't get aggressive however never told any on In  power.

[Midnight Madness]

Well, I'm speaking mostly in regards to internet trolling, since that's what this topic is mostly about after all. You literally cannot muscle against someone on the internet - it just makes you look dumb. Self defense is its own thing in real life, though, but doing more than is needed gets people into really deep shit.

[Crest Is Dead ((For Now))]

Well, I'm speaking mostly in regards to internet trolling, since that's what this topic is mostly about after all. You literally cannot muscle against someone on the internet - it just makes you look dumb. Self defense is its own thing in real life, though, but doing more than is needed gets people into really deep shit.

I saw someone try in to say I'll beat you up in defense. Made me laugh for a while. Anyway with internet trolls it never butts me. What can they do? Spam you with hate? Meh I put it in a folder and when I'm sad I open it and laugh at the hate. Bloody hilarious.

[Midnight Madness]

And that's exactly the point I'm trying to get across.

Let's think about trolls as a hostile soldier with a gun. Their gun has no ammunition and you are aware of it, but you have a box of ammunition on the table nearby. You're between them and the ammo. They demand you hand over the ammunition. Is telling them no saying that the ammo doesn't exist? No - you know the ammo exists but you are not going to allow them to have it because you know they'll use it against you. And, in turn, by not giving them the ammo, you have more of your own ammunition to use against them.

[Crest Is Dead ((For Now))]

And that's exactly the point I'm trying to get across.

Let's think about trolls as a hostile soldier with a gun. Their gun has no ammunition and you are aware of it, but you have a box of ammunition on the table nearby. You're between them and the ammo. They demand you hand over the ammunition. Is telling them no saying that the ammo doesn't exist? No - you know the ammo exists but you are not going to allow them to have it because you know they'll use it against you. And, in turn, by not giving them the ammo, you have more of your own ammunition to use against them.

Yeah. It's a good way of looking at things like that. Although to be fair many places I go on the internet people are quite accepting once I explainnsome stuff to them. Maybe I just got to better sites by I've never had a big problem.