Rants: Everyday Venting

[TMAlt]

May not stay here long especially if tracing is advocated. Stand up for the artists who's stuff is being traced and I get attacked. BS

Tracing is not at all advocated here. On many occasions, people have had their content removed due to such things occurring. In fact, on those occasions, I have gone out of my way to state that tracing is "not something to be showcased publicly."

I brought it up in one of the art topics and I got crap from everyone and White doesn't seem to think it's bad either as I've seen his responses there. I decided instead to inform the artists who's work is being traced and let them tell this person how they feel. I as an artist wouldn't want to see my work traced. I worked really hard to get where I am without tracing and so have many other artists.


*sigh* I just feel discouraged from sharing my work when I get attacked for standing up for other artists against tracing. Sure this person shows what they traced, but it's still wrong unless the artist says otherwise. I personally learned from referencing and studying. No reason they can't.


[Edit] By the way, thank you for standing up and saying something. Sure I may not be able to word things correctly at points, but at least I try.

[Dr. Prower]

So I drew a paw print on the back of my left hand today. Thought it would look cute. Little did I know that it would cause one of my friends to go "Dude, don't tell me you're a furry, like one of those weirdos on TV or something." I never expected to experience furry hate...

[SadDubwool]

Yes but sometimes the work isnt worth it,people have opinions and opinions easily change the flow of the emotional river and can upset people easily,see ,if the person  has un fairly criticised your art,bombs away if you didn't do something to deserve it

[TMAlt]

So I drew a paw print on the back of my left hand today. Thought it would look cute. Little did I know that it would cause one of my friends to go "Dude, don't tell me you're a furry, like one of those weirdos on TV or something." I never expected to experience furry hate...

They just don't know what a true furry is. Just explain to them what furries are actually like and mention that just because it's on TV, doesn't make it true.


My next rant is sport hunting. I don't thank I have to say much about especially to furries. But it's just sickening.

Yes but sometimes the work isnt worth it,people have opinions and opinions easily change the flow of the emotional river and can upset people easily,see ,if the person  has un fairly criticised your art,bombs away if you didn't do something to deserve it

So saying what most artist's say about tracing is unfair criticism now? "His" art. He only drew over a picture and colored it. That doesn't make it his. He didn't do the work of sketching the picture, of improving it until it looked good, of spending the years to get to that level. Anyway, it's already been dealt with and very well explained in my opinion. Go read what Sytex said.

[Midnight Madness]

May not stay here long especially if tracing is advocated. Stand up for the artists who's stuff is being traced and I get attacked. BS

Tracing is not at all advocated here. On many occasions, people have had their content removed due to such things occurring. In fact, on those occasions, I have gone out of my way to state that tracing is "not something to be showcased publicly."

I brought it up in one of the art topics and I got crap from everyone and White doesn't seem to think it's bad either as I've seen his responses there. I decided instead to inform the artists who's work is being traced and let them tell this person how they feel. I as an artist wouldn't want to see my work traced. I worked really hard to get where I am without tracing and so have many other artists.


*sigh* I just feel discouraged from sharing my work when I get attacked for standing up for other artists against tracing. Sure this person shows what they traced, but it's still wrong unless the artist says otherwise. I personally learned from referencing and studying. No reason they can't.


[Edit] By the way, thank you for standing up and saying something. Sure I may not be able to word things correctly at points, but at least I try.

White is actually the one who brought the problems to our attention. He's the main reason the whole situation was handled when it was, because I was just browsing all of the topics overall and would have only stumbled across it near the end, since that seems to be how it likes to work. >.=.> Now please, let's all leave the topic in the dust and let it simmer down, the debate is over, so everybody relax. Please.

On topic, my grandparents had no idea one could volunteer on the internet. Gotta love the scoff they give at something I've been doing for nearly four years and have spoken to them about frequently.

[TMAlt]

Oh okay. Guess he just didn't notice before?


Sorry White if you're reading.


Next rant: Bass heads in apartments. Hate them. No respect for those around them.

[SadDubwool]

The fact that the internet trolls use 'Cancer' as a word relating with hate

[Aconitum]

Before I start, I know Zahrah has used the word "attacked" twice just above, but this in no way is directed toward her.

I was on YouTube today, havin a blast reading the ridiculous comment fights no one has the strength to get away from, until I noticed something. Something that made me laugh out loud. You wanna know what I noticed? No one knew how to use the word "attack".

Dun dun duh!

Seriously though, It seemed everyone on YouTube thought attack meant "when a group of people don't agree with you till hell and high water."

I mean... you got one man who refuses to believe that feeding a cow corn is bad for it because it eats through the animal's stomach. Then, you got three other people who know for a fact that it is and even provided detailed articles and great sources to back up their claims. Reading through a whole two months worth of comments, I did not see one malicious word or phrase towards the man. In fact, he was the only one throwing insults and even told them to go kill themselves! O_O
 
Anyways, at the end of the fight, the man gave up and said "You know what, I don't need this shit! I don't need to be so viciously attacked!" Only he said it in all caps and with a lot of exclamation points.

-sigh- Come one, kiddies. Let's learn what words mean before we go throwing them around to make our arguments valid.

[saph the sergal]

Before I start, I know Zahrah has used the word "attacked" twice just above, but this in no way is directed toward her.

I was on YouTube today, havin a blast reading the ridiculous comment fights no one has the strength to get away from, until I noticed something. Something that made me laugh out loud. You wanna know what I noticed? No one knew how to use the word "attack".

Dun dun duh!

Seriously though, It seemed everyone on YouTube thought attack meant "when a group of people don't agree with you till hell and high water."

I mean... you got one man who refuses to believe that feeding a cow corn is bad for it because it eats through the animal's stomach. Then, you got three other people who know for a fact that it is and even provided detailed articles and great sources to back up their claims. Reading through a whole two months worth of comments, I did not see one malicious word or phrase towards the man. In fact, he was the only one throwing insults and even told them to go kill themselves! O_O
 
Anyways, at the end of the fight, the man gave up and said "You know what, I don't need this shit! I don't need to be so viciously attacked!" Only he said it in all caps and with a lot of exclamation points.

-sigh- Come one, kiddies. Let's learn what words mean before we go throwing them around to make our arguments valid.

haha nothing beats one about a steam train tho




im so sick of those who cant follow a thing i say you lvl 6 in gta you dont have the gear to handle others when i say get the car i friggen mean it not play super hero and make us fail the heist 

[SadDubwool]

He kept goddamn leaving when i was trying to rack up flare gun kills

[Aconitum]

I hate hate HATE IT when I'm coloring something and a little bit of the color gets into a part of the picture I don't want it in. I don't care if I spend hours drawing it or if it's a really nice page in a coloring book, it's getting thrown out and I'm starting over. -_-

[Cifero Windtail]

 

Before I start, I know Zahrah has used the word "attacked" twice just above, but this in no way is directed toward her.

I was on YouTube today, havin a blast reading the ridiculous comment fights no one has the strength to get away from, until I noticed something. Something that made me laugh out loud. You wanna know what I noticed? No one knew how to use the word "attack".

Dun dun duh!

Seriously though, It seemed everyone on YouTube thought attack meant "when a group of people don't agree with you till hell and high water."

I mean... you got one man who refuses to believe that feeding a cow corn is bad for it because it eats through the animal's stomach. Then, you got three other people who know for a fact that it is and even provided detailed articles and great sources to back up their claims. Reading through a whole two months worth of comments, I did not see one malicious word or phrase towards the man. In fact, he was the only one throwing insults and even told them to go kill themselves! O_O
 
Anyways, at the end of the fight, the man gave up and said "You know what, I don't need this shit! I don't need to be so viciously attacked!" Only he said it in all caps and with a lot of exclamation points.

-sigh- Come one, kiddies. Let's learn what words mean before we go throwing them around to make our arguments valid.

It's the way people are taught, sadly... Read into Deborah Tannen's "The Argument Culture" for more information. I can't quite remember the whole deal. However, that situation on line is a fairly good example of how agonism is deeply rooted in our society. (Again, please read the book, my mind cannot remember everything. Basically, people sorta treat every little argument like a massive war that needs to be won or something. The book tells it better.)


Long story short, the corporations are destroying the world.


How those connect, I'm not sure. I'm still working on wording the connection. But there's a definite connection. It has to do with corporations and society and agonism and the argument culture. My brain's just not that good at connecting words... it takes time.


But anyway. Patience and an open mind are two great things to have in the world.

[Dax Declan]

I'm about done even being near my dad. He sat there bashing on a show I enjoy and he ended it with berating me. "Shut the **** up you stupid f****** ***hole. You don't f****** know anything. " and me telling him he doesn't have to talk to me like that ended with " Shut up you little b****. "

[Cifero Windtail]

I quite dislike not being able to find the right words. Also, it is hard to break out of being passive-aggressive.


And also, it's hard to convince a person that they're worth something when they're convinced they're worthless.


Also, please remember that your dad probably went through the 12-year wringer, which kinda brainwashes everyone into being a total bint if they take the wrong classes. Pardons can be made.

[TMAlt]

Before I start, I know Zahrah has used the word "attacked" twice just above, but this in no way is directed toward her.

I was on YouTube today, havin a blast reading the ridiculous comment fights no one has the strength to get away from, until I noticed something. Something that made me laugh out loud. You wanna know what I noticed? No one knew how to use the word "attack".

Dun dun duh!

Seriously though, It seemed everyone on YouTube thought attack meant "when a group of people don't agree with you till hell and high water."

I mean... you got one man who refuses to believe that feeding a cow corn is bad for it because it eats through the animal's stomach. Then, you got three other people who know for a fact that it is and even provided detailed articles and great sources to back up their claims. Reading through a whole two months worth of comments, I did not see one malicious word or phrase towards the man. In fact, he was the only one throwing insults and even told them to go kill themselves! O_O
 
Anyways, at the end of the fight, the man gave up and said "You know what, I don't need this shit! I don't need to be so viciously attacked!" Only he said it in all caps and with a lot of exclamation points.

-sigh- Come one, kiddies. Let's learn what words mean before we go throwing them around to make our arguments valid.

No offense taken whatsoever. Being called a hater however is definitely an insult in my opinion. I just can't stand when people gang up just to call someone a hater when they're pointing out something that bothers others especially when they're given another way to go about things. I don't know. I guess it's mostly the way it's worded that can make it look like an attack rather than a criticism. I for one word things badly way too often despite trying to point in a better direction. xD


Cifero:
I'm definitely in the same position. I will try to keep things civil, but when people take it the wrong way or twist it, it gets a little out of hand. I've learned to control it mostly, but it's still a pain keeping it back.


Dax:
I'm with you there. I don't care what a dad's gone through, he should not be talking to his child that way. My dad may support me, but he's a selfish, egotistical, unfaithful, ***hole. Cheated on my mom. My elder sister may have succeeded in breaking them up with her messes that get blamed on my mom.