"Humans are the Absolute Good" and misanthropy

[anoni]

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Not hated at all. Again, instead of just saying "EVERYONE HATES THIS MOVIE", perhaps provide evidence for that, it'll save me time from happening to look it up for you 

HTTYD 2 and Monsters university were two examples that are recent that I put on there to. Her counts because it is a non-human and the whole movies was about the ability to love something that is non-human.

Lets see in terms of video games, WELL

  - We have the Rachet and Clank series, very highly rated, doesn't involve humans at all
  - Sonic the hedgehog, very popular series. Recent games are hated, but not because of the fact sonic is a hedgehog, just cause the games are poorly made.
  - A whole bunch of nintendo games that are still super popular today, like star fox for example
  - Conkur's Bad fur day is still super popular, even getting a rebootish game that's coming out soon on Spark
  - Earth worm jim is an old game but still popular
  - A wolf Among us is a recent game by Telltales, while strictly NOT animals you do play the fairytale personification of a wolf (you turn into a wolf in various scenes), very popular game.
  - Sly cooper is still a popular and highly rated franchise, I believe a new game came out recently
  - Spyro, old game but still has a cult following

  There are a lot more where you play with friendly non-human characters as well, including Zelda, Mass Effect, and stuff like that. So here's just a short list, there are many more but I can't think of them right now.

[Ryan Naismith]

Well, it is my belief that it's not just humans that are evil, it's a just plain biological thing.
there IS no such thing as an objective good, and an objective evil. Your biases tend to make you see things in a certain way. (hitler and his followers thought he was a pretty cool guy; no-one fights for a cause they don't believe in.)
now I'm not saying I'm COMPLETELY free from bias, but I do like to say that I give people another chance.
but I digress.
Animals would do the exact same thing, given our technology, and intelligence.
If animals were so benevolent, then why are there pests? why is there invasive animals? Just face it. Every single living thing out there would sacrifice any other living thing for itself.
The only reason we really have any self sacrifice at all is because people believe it will better them; they will live on for being "valorous" or some such term. or, after they die, they will go to heaven, and have everlasting life. the reason why some animals have "packs" is because it increases the strength of the individual; a sacrifice for the pack is really a sacrifice for yourself; by doing this, you are expecting your pack-mates to do the same.
[/size]but again, I digress. TL;DR: Animals are butts too.

Except I NEVER see animal lovers or activists actually portrayed in a good light anymore. In addition, I see quite a bit of media where the "hero" is a hunter. The fact that the main character in The Hunger Games hunts for a living ruins the entire story for me, I can NOT accept a hunter as a hero. Sue me. And yes, I know why she hunts. She does it to feed her family and yadda-yadda-yadda, but it's not why she hunts that pisses me off, it's that I'm sick and tired of seeing animal lovers portrayed as evil, while animal killers are "heroes."

I'm sorry, WHAT?


the fact taht she is a hunter really becomes tangential to the plot later on; it's a skill that she has.


and another thing, How can heroes of most blockbuster action movies NOT be hunters nowadays? how could someone in THG NOT hunt, at least a little bit?
Answer me that.

[Midnight Madness]

I think this is as far as the thread will go. We've more than piled up circumstantial evidence against the initial point of the topic, and yet it seems to make absolutely no headway. There has been next to no incidents of accepting a point, and the lack of factual, unbiased evidence to support the idea of the topic is beyond blatant. All I see is this trend going in circles for weeks, and then people getting frustrated at the blatant denial of evidence that goes on. I distinctly remember an occasion or two where members became obviously frustrated at incidents exactly like these. They turn more into 'ethics debates' than rant threads anyway, and that in itself goes against the point of this board.

For the sake of it, we of the staff have decided to lock this thread due to the debate-like nature and the tail-chasing rebuttals that'll inevitably end with someone tired, irritated and, undoubtedly, pissed off.