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Gender?
« on: February 26, 2011, 05:54:10 AM »
I don’t know why, but recently I’ve felt somewhat.. Stressed..? I guess over gender issues on top of a lot of other things. I don’t really know what to make of it because generally, I prefer to look pretty androgynous, and it’s mainly because I don’t exactly feel like I identify with being male or female, or that at times, I feel like I identify with both, if that makes sense. I guess I’m pretty gender neutral is what I’m trying to say. I’m always mistaken for a girly gay boy or a boyish lesbian in both the way I act and how I look (well, kind of, I don’t really express interest in girls, lol, but still). I’m more comfortable not being labeled with a gender; and it’s not that I’m uncomfortable being female, I’m pretty fine with being a girl, it’s that the ability to be ambiguous is more comfortable to me because… Well, people don’t immediately slap other assumptions or label you as soon as they see you, I suppose and you feel less obligated to fulfill gender roles our society sets. I can’t really explain it any further than that.

It kind of frustrates me in a way because recently we’ve been discussing gender in sociology and anthropology… And while I find it pretty interesting, the reactions when people find out that gender is something that is pretty plastic, or that gender neutrality is a good thing… It makes me kind of hate myself. It’s like people are appalled and disgusted that someone is not strictly male or female, or that they can relate or feel connected /unconnected to both of them. It’s probably just because of where I live, but still, it makes me feel as if something is wrong with me, and it makes me wonder who would be willing to accept me when it comes to people my age and dating, ect. because of how negative the reactions are to the facts or observations made. Not everyone in the class does it, but the group I sit around particularly does it when we talk about transgendered people or gender neutral folks (with the exception of the guy who sits to the left of me; he’s actually pretty nice to me even though I was convinced he didn’t like me at first and he occasionally tries to talk to me because he’s a writer and uneasy about going into the creative field) and it really bothers me because they act as if there’s something wrong with people who feel differently about their gender and they just say whatever because I guess they assume that I’m a lesbian or they don’t realize I can relate to the people they’re making fun of. Not to say I’m transgendered, but again, I feel pretty neutral when it comes to my own gender, mentally anyway. There’s not a question that I’m female biologically.

I’ve also thought about wrapping my breasts, but I don’t know if that’s taking it too far or what. I’ve found that I’ve particularly liked hoodie season because I can get away with looking like something between male and female without having to wrap them (because honestly, though I want to do it, I don’t know where to start). But then I get down on myself when people don’t want to be around me or would never consider me as a mate unless I was a last resort or they’re the kind of person that’s so desperate they’d take anything at this point. I like to be me, but at the same time, I don’t want to be alone all the time. I also don’t want to jump through hoops for false acceptance or pretend to be something I’m not just for other people. I don’t know. I feel pretty conflicted lately because of… Well, wanting to be me versus not wanting to be shunned like a freak.

People have always told me that it’s a phase, and that I’d grow out of it… But I’m twenty now, and I’m still the same way I’ve been. If anything how I feel about being ambiguous with my gender has amplified because I consider wrapping / finding other measures to look androgynous. Not to mention, I tried to grow out my hair and be a little more feminine, and it just didn’t feel right. I don’t know what to do anymore because even though there’s pros to doing what I want to do, there are also cons to it as well. Any thoughts / advice?

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 06:00:58 AM »
It sounds kinda like you aren't sure whether you want to be a girl, boy, or androgynous. Those conflicting feelings cause your brain to go everywhere, making you unable to make the decision. I think what you need to do is try out each one in turn and see which you like best. Afterwards, when you dress a certain way, it wont feel as wrong.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 06:25:07 AM »
I think your putting other peoples opinion too much into your thoughts. What they think really doesn't matter. You are who you are, and if you want to be androgynous, then theres nothing wrong with it. If you want to wrap your breasts, then try it, see how it feels, and determine if its you or not. There shouldn't be to much thinking in finding out who you are. It should just come to you and grow on you. And most people wouldn't shun you for being the way you are. At least the people that matter won't. Being androgynous is actually pretty normal in my opinion. People in alot of asian countries have a tendency to be very androgynous.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 06:40:06 AM »
It sounds kinda like you aren't sure whether you want to be a girl, boy, or androgynous. Those conflicting feelings cause your brain to go everywhere, making you unable to make the decision. I think what you need to do is try out each one in turn and see which you like best. Afterwards, when you dress a certain way, it wont feel as wrong.

buuuutttt, I'm not a psychology major or anything close. just a 14 year old boy trying to help. i hope this does.

I've tried being girly and being boyish. I'm not the most feminine girl and I'm not the most masculine male, I fall in the gray area. I don't limit myself on where I shop (in the male or female section), I wear either and both. I'm pretty certain on how I feel about my gender, I just don't like the drawbacks that come with it, I guess is what I'm trying to say because there are a lot of closed minded people where I live.

I think your putting other peoples opinion too much into your thoughts. What they think really doesn't matter. You are who you are, and if you want to be androgynous, then theres nothing wrong with it. If you want to wrap your breasts, then try it, see how it feels, and determine if its you or not. There shouldn't be to much thinking in finding out who you are. It should just come to you and grow on you. And most people wouldn't shun you for being the way you are. At least the people that matter won't. Being androgynous is actually pretty normal in my opinion. People in alot of asian countries have a tendency to be very androgynous.

But everything above is just my opinion and advice, cause I don't want to sound like I know everything. Cause I sure as hell don't.

Well, I live in the south, so generally people here aren't so accepting. I don't necessarily feel like it's wrong (because I like it), but I also don't like being judged and tossed aside for being "weird". I am not a people pleaser, nor have I ever been and the times where I've attempted to be more girl-ish felt more or less like I was going out of my way to seek acceptance, so I stopped. I agree that the people that don't matter won't accept me, but again, it would be nice to come across people who do. I can say, I have tried wrapping, and I very much liked it... It's just again, not wanting to be judged like I'm some kind of freak.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 07:03:04 AM »
hmm...well its seems like your going to have to make a choice between possibly being jugded and being yourself. Even If you are in the south (Im in Oklahoma which isnt quite south, but south enough to understand) I still think its a good idea to be yourself. Or at least find some medium when your not at home so you can kinda feel like yourself but at the same time feel more accepted.
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Re: Gender?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 07:16:11 AM »
In all honesty, ignore those who would be close-minded to you. They would only tear you down. You should choose how "you" want to be and there should be no doubt behind it. I've been told I'm unlike most of my coworkers in how I do things, but I have their respect due to having built-up a reputation for good. Now it should not matter what they think.... it's what you think that should.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 05:57:22 PM »
Just fudge them. You are who you choose to be.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 08:10:09 PM »
Thanks all. I generally tend to do my own thing despite what anyone says.. It's just it would be nice to gain some acceptance every now and then, you know? And apparently I'm "gender fluid" not gender neutral.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 08:41:37 PM »
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Re: Gender?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 11:12:29 PM »
Well... People will always judge or hate you. The only difference is that we, by we I mean gays, trans folk..third or fourth or whatever gendered people, give them a reason upfront. So, my advice is to have a long talk with yourself, figure yourself out, and to hell with everyone else. There is no doubt you will find people who will accept you, love you, and not judge you, also there is no doubt that it will be difficult. There is a good chance of you breaking down, crying, feeling so alone and hated, and that will pass. There is a chance you also get through it safely.

My best friend was a transwoman. Along the way, she decided that being fully female was not her. She found the term pangendered, which means a blend of female and female, that a person is as much male as female. She... would kill me if she saw me referring to her as she, she uses sie and hir. I sauy that is incredibly brave, but she is incredibly lucky, and was given no grief... Well... only from her grandparents, she nothing terribly traumatising. So you see, there are others similar to you. All you need to do is figure yourself out and not be afraid.

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Re: Gender?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 02:58:53 AM »
Be yourself.
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Re: Gender?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 04:14:29 AM »
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