Rant: Animal lovers

[Dax Declan]

Acon what I'm about to say isn't directed at you in anyway. I hate when people believe the stupid propaganda videos made by PETA. Does this frustrate anyone else?   

[Nrein]

Acon what I'm about to say isn't directed at you in anyway. I hate when people believe the stupid propaganda videos made by PETA. Does this frustrate anyone else?

I personally love them. Very entertaining.

[kalan]

Wolves eats deer, yumm

[Kaiyo]

Vegan therefore carnivore hater.
Gay therefore straight hater.
A race therefore racist.
Atheist therefore religious person hater.

Such logic, got to love that kind of thinking, such is the thinking of a mastermind.

[Aconitum]

Vegan therefore carnivore hater.
Gay therefore straight hater.
A race therefore racist.
Atheist therefore religious person hater.

Such logic, got to love that kind of thinking, such is the thinking of a mastermind.

None of that was being said.

[Aconitum]

You know, actually, I'm over it. An opinion is an opinion. We're all entitled, I'ma let you do your thing.

[Maine]

Wow, defensive people are defensive. I would have liked to see a thought out discussion on this topic! It's a good one!


I myself, am a pescatarian (vegetarian that also eats fish) I find it to be a healthy diet for me, but I'm also not a fan of the meat production industry.




Going back to the core elements of the point raised, I feel like there is a distinguishable difference a "love" and a  "respect" of animals. And we're really talking about respect here.
[size=0px]And the fact that animal is a fairly flimsy term in this context. Humans are animals after all.[/size][/size][size=0px]therefore I think a more suitable term would be 'life'.


For instance, you could have a pig or sheep, you could love it very much, make sure it's cared for and has a happy life. But you could also eat that animal once it comes time. It doesn't mean you love the animal any less, it means that you have respected the life of this animal and now it's time for it to fulfill the purpose of it's flesh.[/size][size=78%]   [/size][size=0px]




Although I myself do not eat meat, I do not have a problem with people eating meat. People can have wholesome diets and still have respect for the life that they have taken for consumption. That's nature.


What I have a problem with is the current culture of mass production of animal products (particular battery farming etc.)
Where painful lives are seen as a commodity in everyday life.

It stems from mass consumption and over population. Under current circumstances, many people don't have a choice, or they don't want to change their eating habits. Because it makes life easy.




So in short; You can love animals, but that doesn't mean you respect all life.
And I think this is what Aconitum was trying to say, correct? [/size]

[The Past]

I feel the same way as Maine. Especially with this bit:

Going back to the core elements of the point raised, I feel like there is a distinguishable difference a "love" and a  "respect" of animals. And we're really talking about respect here.
And the fact that animal is a fairly flimsy term in this context. Humans are animals after all therefore I think a more suitable term would be 'life'.


For instance, you could have a pig or sheep, you could love it very much, make sure it's cared for and has a happy life. But you could also eat that animal once it comes time. It doesn't mean you love the animal any less, it means that you have respected the life of this animal and now it's time for it to fulfill the purpose of it's flesh.

I have tried to explain this to a hardcore vegan on Facebook so many times...

Another thing of note is that vegetables, being plants, are also living. Sure, they aren't sentient  in the exact way as animals, but it is still life and deserves just as much respect, in my opinion. Eating life is, of course, a fact of life. There should be no guilt in it, yet there should still be effort to make sure the life is killed by humane methods.

On a semi-related note, I do eat meat, but don't go out of my way to get it, with the exception of fish. I kinda see meat in general as more of a "spice", if that makes sense. It works nice in recipes with lots of veggies and pasta, but I'm not terribly crazy about it alone.

[BakaFawkes]

I love animals, and I eat steak, porkchops, heck, I've even had dog.


Whether or not I buy the next McDonalds burger that rolls down the assembly line, it will not save that cow that has been killed. Because there are people out there that don't care and will continue to eat animals grown in a row because that is how the world works. There are very few ways to feed billions of people, and we can't just raise millions of cows in pristine grasslands. There simply is not enough money or even space on this planet without drastically altering the rest of nature as is. I'm sure the nomads of old were pissed at their friends for animal husbandry at all when that first started.