Windows 10! Good or Bad?

[White Wolf Guardian]

http://i.imgur.com/bNvz7Ww.png

From what I have gathered, unless it is the Enterprise version, you definitely do not want it.

[saph the sergal]

as for the 7 and 8 updates those where forced updates that had a telemetrics in them that enabled it i found what ones they were and uninstalled them


as for 10 itself bad because of it not having a media player unless you pay 15 dollers

[White Wolf Guardian]

Why doesn't anybody actually question why exactly the data of corporations and businesses are not being shared when using Enterprise rather than the other versions that are sharing data? Sounds way too NSA-friendly to me.

[saph the sergal]

Why doesn't anybody actually question why exactly the data of corporations and businesses are not being shared when using Enterprise rather than the other versions that are sharing data? Sounds way too NSA-friendly to me.

not everyone is a tech person or has the amount of knowledge we do about it


my brother dont understand what malware is and he yelled at me for showing him the proof right in front of him




to finish off my posting here i will leave these 3 updates do as you like but they all send telemetric data


(btw the 2 linked all show the telemetric data support)


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3021917


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708

[White Wolf Guardian]

Right, but the problem with every version outside of Enterprise is that the telemetry will turn itself back on eventually. Shouldn't have to fight an operating system on a daily basis to keep my files to myself.

>nb4 "Microsoft dindu nuffin, Win10 is best."

[saph the sergal]

im just gonna sit back and await the lawsuits on them when people learn what they are doing like what happened with the nsa

[Nrein]

I'm still sticking with the fact that it's a great OS that hasn't given me any problems yet. And it really doesn't bother me what they collect, and we should be pretty happy they're at least open about it.

And, it does have Windows Media Player, you're thinking of Media Center which was pretty outdated since the year after it came out. VLC ftw.

[Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy")]

And it really doesn't bother me what they collect, and we should be pretty happy they're at least open about it.

Well, after Snowden's incident you could be pretty sure, that majority of companies would spy on you. It all came down to how much.

[Timmy Fox]

And it really doesn't bother me what they collect, and we should be pretty happy they're at least open about it.

Well, after Snowden's incident you could be pretty sure, that majority of companies would spy on you. It all came down to how much.

This.
If you're using Google, Youtube, any modern version of Windows (Including Windows 7 and likely even as fast back as xp), Ubuntu, a phone running either Android (including CyanogenMod), iOS or Windows Phone, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon etc.. or if you're at all connected to the internet you're being spied on.

As I've said before, this isn't something new to Windows 10 but something that's been used universally by everyone on all systems. Even if you uninstall those updates on Windows 7/8 you only remove that particular data collection but that doesn't stop those versions of Windows from spying on you still in the ways it already was. Uninstalling an update is not a magic "off"-button.

Windows 10 at least tells you what they're doing where older versions and most other companies just do it without telling you.

Windows 7, for example, sends information to Microsoft every time you open these (to name a few):
- Start Menu
- Accessories
- System Tools
- Task Scheduler

And that's not after any updates, that's how it was already when Windows 7 first came out.

[Nrein]

And it really doesn't bother me what they collect, and we should be pretty happy they're at least open about it.

Well, after Snowden's incident you could be pretty sure, that majority of companies would spy on you. It all came down to how much.

This.
If you're using Google, Youtube, any modern version of Windows (Including Windows 7 and likely even as fast back as xp), Ubuntu, a phone running either Android (including CyanogenMod), iOS or Windows Phone, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon etc.. or if you're at all connected to the internet you're being spied on.

As I've said before, this isn't something new to Windows 10 but something that's been used universally by everyone on all systems. Even if you uninstall those updates on Windows 7/8 you only remove that particular data collection but that doesn't stop those versions of Windows from spying on you still in the ways it already was. Uninstalling an update is not a magic "off"-button.

Windows 10 at least tells you what they're doing where older versions and most other companies just do it without telling you.

Windows 7, for example, sends information to Microsoft every time you open these (to name a few):
- Start Menu
- Accessories
- System Tools
- Task Scheduler

And that's not after any updates, that's how it was already when Windows 7 first came out.

BUT TIMMUR WINDERS SEVERN IS DUH BERST.

Gotta love how that argument is valid, but any argument why Windows 10 is better isn't

[anoni]

I've refrained from upgrading, I feel Microsoft has some evil nefarious plan they're concocting with it being free.

And I say that, despite the fact that I'm gonna be working for Microsoft in a few months xD. Microsoft isn't a bad company I'm just suspicious, when I come back from Microsoft I may be able to tell you if there truly is an evil plan in the works

You know, pretty much all the privacy concerns with Windows 10 people have had with it sharing data and stuff? What wasn't already in 7 and 8 has now been confirmed to have been added in a recent Windows Update for those

Nah, it's not actually the privacy concerns that I find troubling about Windows 10, it's the fact that it's free. Why is it free when all other OS's were not? It seems odd. There are a few things about the release that seem especially odd, for example Pirates will be able to get Windows 10 for free, even if they pirated BUT they must remain "Windows Insiders" in order to keep the free status. Windows Insiders are basically people who are beta-testing microsofts products.

  I dunno, call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever but it just seem odd, this whole ordeal just doesn't set right with me. I want to sort of wait and see before I do any upgrading.

[Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy")]

Keep in mind, that this free update is valid for one year. Most of news providers and updater itself forget to mention that.

[White Wolf Guardian]

"Free" is never free, so I'm not touching it until Windows 10 Enterprise is for sale.

[Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy")]

Enterprise is only available for companies.
You'd need to have an office to get approved by Microsoft.

[Timmy Fox]

I've refrained from upgrading, I feel Microsoft has some evil nefarious plan they're concocting with it being free.

And I say that, despite the fact that I'm gonna be working for Microsoft in a few months xD. Microsoft isn't a bad company I'm just suspicious, when I come back from Microsoft I may be able to tell you if there truly is an evil plan in the works

You know, pretty much all the privacy concerns with Windows 10 people have had with it sharing data and stuff? What wasn't already in 7 and 8 has now been confirmed to have been added in a recent Windows Update for those

Nah, it's not actually the privacy concerns that I find troubling about Windows 10, it's the fact that it's free. Why is it free when all other OS's were not? It seems odd. There are a few things about the release that seem especially odd, for example Pirates will be able to get Windows 10 for free, even if they pirated BUT they must remain "Windows Insiders" in order to keep the free status. Windows Insiders are basically people who are beta-testing microsofts products.

  I dunno, call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever but it just seem odd, this whole ordeal just doesn't set right with me. I want to sort of wait and see before I do any upgrading.

But it's not actually free! Owners of 7 or 8 will get it free as an update within the first year but if you wanna do a new fresh install or you have a PC that's not been updated after next summer you'll have to pay for a new license. Also if you're running xp or Vista (or earlier) it's not free at all. Another thing is that I believe the update license works as an OEM license meaning that if you upgrade something major like the motherboard it will register as a new computer (meaning potential need for a new paid license key).