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What can be considered Overrated
« on: October 03, 2012, 09:43:40 PM »
I've watched a lot of shows and movies, and played a lot of games as well. I also hear the term "overrated" thrown around for things like Sonic the Hedgehog, World of Warcraft, Avatar(The Movie, not Last Airbender), My Little Pony, etc. But the main thing I've noticed about all things called "overrated" is that they generally contain anthropomorphized animals or non-human characters. Like, I hear World of Warcraft and Elder Scrolls being called overrated, but I never EVER hear about Monster Hunter, which is a game who's goodguy roster is pretty much excluded to humans, being an overrated game. Another thing I've noticed is that games or shows with anthropomorphized villains, like One Piece or Gurren Lagann or The World Ends With You, can also not be called overrated. And, on another note, movies like Avatar can be called "uncreative" when the thousand of generic alien or zombie movies cannot be called uncreative. Sometimes I feel Avatar is only "overrated" because most humans are too prideful in their own species that they think humans are perfect (except for those awful, animal-loving scum bags).

But worst of all, I feel that things are only "overrated" if I like them. There are so many things I honestly do not like. Gurren Lagann, TWEWY, Monster Hunter, One Piece, Resident Evil, and also Mario, all things I strongly do not like that people basically think are unhateable. Sometimes I wonder if that's becoming a trend with the human race, that only things involving animals can be considered overrated, yet things where animals are villains are unhateable.

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 08:17:39 AM »
People call things with a lot of praise overrated, so it's not that they have anthropomorphic animals I don't think, I just think cause it's popular. People look at Avatar (the movie) and say "oooh so many people love it, but I thought it was good but not the best movie ever made, therefore it's overrated".

  Essentially, when something is overrated it means that the person believes that the quality of the object is less than the assumed quality of it. That is it doesn't live up to the hype for them. Really popular movies tend to be classified as overrated more because they have such a high hype behind them, it is very difficult for a movie like Avatar to live up to and beyond it's hype at the time. A lot of people consider the movie living up to the hype, but sometimes they can exaggerate the movies quality a bit and the hype can be super big.

  Generally what I'm saying is just because someone says a movie is "overrated" doesn't mean it's "bad". It can still be a terrific movie, it just means that the hype of the movie is more than the actual quality of the movie for this person, if the hype is really high the quality could be also really high, just not as high as the hype. Generally, the more popular a movie the more risk it has to be called "overrated". So if you generally like super popular movies, then that would explain why people reckon most of stuff you talked about is overrated. All the stuff in the list you gave me, Sonic the headgehog, World of Warcraft, Avatar (The Movie) and  MLP are all really quite popular, while Monster Hunter is not as popular. Monster Hunter has less chance of being called overrated.


   Tl;dr, people only call the stuff you like overrated because it's popular.
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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 08:50:08 PM »
But why isn't Gurren Lagann, The World Ends With You, Resident Evil, or Mario allowed to be called overrated?

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 11:01:28 AM »
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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 12:02:52 PM »
And then there are a few lucky ones that still aren't, like Monkey Island. I'd say it's not overrated. Maybe because it's such an old franchise where most of the fanbase was born in the... 80's? 70's?

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 05:21:30 PM »
One more thing. I don't hate this game, but... I've always disliked Pokemon Black/White. Not because of the Pokemon, which I think are still awesome, but because Pokemon Black/White has so little to do compared to past games. All you can do in Black/White outside of more of the same (That you did in every other game) is this really (expletive) Pokemon Musical, which is completely bogus. Sure, there's new Triple and Rotation battles, but it's still more battling. You can also grow berries and have a Secret Base. ...ONLINE! Not in game. In other words, you need to have online capabilities on your DS in order to use those, which I do not. Actually, you need online on your DS to do pretty much EVERYTHING the game has to offer outside the battling and exploring that EVERY main Pokemon game has. I am also particularly offended by Team Plasma, who portrays the popular Misanthropic Animal-Lovers stereotype that's been ever so popular these days. A stereotype I can NOT stand, because animals and people who care about them are being demonized more and more everyday.

But every time I mention this, Pokemon fans are like:
"You grew out of Pokemon!" (No I didn't.)
"People without online on their DS are a dying breed." (No excuse.)
"If you want something to do, get creative!" (If you absolutely HAVE to get creative in order to have fun, then a game isn't very good.)
"Play something else if you don't want to play Pokemon!" (Things like the Pokeathelon and the Super Contest gave Pokemon its lasting appeal and they were fun.)

And other dumb excuses. So, am I basically not allowed to like Black/White because of it's lack of replay-value (and offensive villains team)?

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2012, 08:44:50 PM »
You really shouldn't take it so personally when some people don't have the same opinions you do. It's often not worth the energy getting upset over it. There are always people who will disagree with you, and there are always people who feel the same way you do. You are very much entitled to have your own opinion on things, but don't be surprised when there are people who disagree with it. That's the way the world works. It would be terribly boring if everyone thought the same way about everything all the time.

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 09:26:20 PM »
Mainly what I don't like, Zephyr, is that it seems like only things I like are hated. Anything I seriously do NOT like is loved by pretty much everyone I know except for one or two people.

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2012, 11:27:12 PM »
That, my friend, I want to say to you is absolutely not fact. By focusing on the fact that any fanbase has a large number of people who will call it "overrated," it will seem you are surrounded by people who think so, and that will make you feel that everybody hates it. This is untrue, and should be tossed aside as a thought. You go on liking what you like and don't worry about those who dislike it.

For example. I hate that show Jersey Shore, but practically everyone around me adores it. I think it's pure tripe, thus overrated. While only my friends dislike it. Or anime. I dislike Anime, but practically all my friends like it. One of those shows being Gurren Lagann. I do not care for it, but everyone I know seems to love it and says it's great, so I might call it overrated.

Dude, trust me. Everyone is significantly different no matter where you go. You could just go to the next town over and more people will like, say, Dance music instead of Country, or Wheel of Fortune over The Price is Right, and so forth.

Just remember, like Anoni said, something being overrated is simply someone's opinion. Where the overall quality comes up to less (in the eyes of the one calling it overrated) than that of the assumed quality (which comes from those who are involved in its fanbase). So in essence, everything is overrated.

As for your initial statement about how you seem to notice a "trend" of people calling things with anthropomorphism (which is essentially anything nonhuman gaining human traits, like a talking horse, or even something as simple as a dog trying to write with his paws) overrated is simply because they don't think it's as awesome as we might perceive it. It's more of the same. Just an opinion that they don't share, and how much we like it is not how much they like it, which makes it overrated to them.

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2012, 05:01:15 PM »
Honestly, I think Gurren Lagann is complete rubbish. It's so corny, it's just stupid. But no matter how many times I look on DeviantArt, not a single anti-Gurren Lagann stamp/picture exists. Or anti-Earthbound (Except the one I made), anti-TWEWY, anti-Resident Evil, anti-One Piece, anti-Metal Gear Solid, anti-God of War, and only a few anti-Mario stamps. Yet there's almost a hundred anti-Sonic, anti-My Little Pony, anti-Street Fighter, anti-Pokemon, etc stamps. It's hard not to feel isolated from society when your attempts to prove yourself wrong are in vain.

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2012, 05:25:57 PM »
Once again. It's a separate community. And on top of that, things that are more popular are much less likely to be called overrated, because more people like them. But the four things you listed that have a million anti things are also incredibly popular, and have gigantic fanbases. Bronies are a great example, there are tons of them. Almost everyone I know likes a Pokemon or at least one of the games.

There are also a million anti furry stamps, anti religion stamps, anti this, anti that. Honesty, getting worked up over it is kind of silly. It's just an opinion, and there are millions upon millions that like what you do, regardless of whether or not you're aware.

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 04:23:18 AM »
I have to disagree with Sytex about the popular things being less likely to be called overrated. Overrated is in relation to hype and quality, if something is overrated it means that people say it's better than it really is. Usually things that are popular are called good by a lot of people, so you have a lot of people calling things good, so you have a larger hype about the medium and thus there will be people who disagree, the people who disagree will call the game overrated because there is a large hype with the game. Remember, overrated does not mean bad, you won't find a movie like Starship troopers 2, which is absolutely terrible, being called overrated, because the ratings for that movie are also absolutely terrible (with a 3 on IMDB).

  But yes, everyone has different opinions, I doubt you'll ever find a place where everyone agrees entirely with you. Even things like Hitler was bad or that the moon landing was real have people who disagree, people disagree with everything, it's just diversity. You'll find a hate group for almost anything, so just don't talk to the people who hate the things you like and try to associate more with the people who like the things you like.
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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2012, 01:42:00 PM »
I honestly don't see the point in focusing on things you don't like anyway. By being anti-this and anti-that, you are only bringing it into your life while you could simply focus on things you do enjoy and to hell with the rest?

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Re: What can be considered Overrated
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 10:03:27 PM »
Like Anoni said, I do not think it is because of the anthropomorphic characters in it.

In my honest opinion, Skyrim is massively overated, even though I play it alot. I just think people hype WAY too much about things.

Monster Hunter - The reason no one talks about that is because no one has made enough hype about it for it to be overated. I use the term "overated" for things I feel people overhype about.

In this case
Skyrim

Now, I have never heard anyone say Sonic is overated. I've heard people say Mario is, and same thing goes for Avatar.

And I feel, (please don't flame) that I agree on the fact that MLP is overated. It is just a show, but people have hyped so much about it that there is a Bronycon and a guy changed his name to Rainbow Dash. I never saw what made the show so different. I watched it. It seems like one of those old shows (Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo) which I like, but everyone seems to make such a big fuss about it. If any brony would like to carefully explain what makes MLP any different than any other show of the past, please do. Because I'm kinda confused on what makes this show so popular.

But other than that, not all people hate shows because of that. Avatar was a big hit, so you really can't argue that people hate stuff because of that.

There are a lot of Mario haters, so no going against that.



 

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