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TFF Central => Suggestions => Topic started by: Brisky on January 27, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
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About the forum ambassador.
The new role that the staff overlords have come up with, wich are known users granted the title by staff members, who are, amongst other things, supposed to welcome and help newbies into the forum, and be a friendly speaking point for people to go to, incase they feel too intimidated by the actual forum staff.
Don't get me wrong, I think it was a good idea all from the start, but why make their colour gold?
My primary concern with this goes to new members. Just look at this:
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/603f/f/2018/027/6/4/resourcef_by_happycomrie-dc1c198.jpg)
That's a pretty subtle diffirence, isn't it? Especially since all staff members have very vibrant colours to make them clearly distinguished from other used, I think that it may be entirely likely for a new member to miss the distinguishment for the ambassador's role, completely.
For a role wich is intended to be an adressing point for new members, it just doesn't seem like smart idea to make the primary thing that distinguishes forum ranks (The colour given to the user's name) almost identical to that of the regulair.
And, lastly, this is more of a stylish nitpick, but nonetheless important, I believe.
Forum ambassadors are primarely made with the thought of making the forum more fun to everyone.
I realise that this maybe subjective, and that there are already quite a lot of colours defining forum ranks out there, but come on. Gold isn't a very fun and creative colour, is it?
You guy's can do better than that! :P
Right?
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I think you make some fair points. The debate of colors we had was mostly between bronze, orange, and pink, as those are the colors not already used.
Baud, any recommendations for a different color?
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Orange was used previously and it always looked distinct to me, but I'm sure that would vary between individuals. One issue is that members name are orange/brown in some views but light purple in others, so there are two colours to avoid clashing with.
Cyan and turquoise are easy shades of blue to be distinct from but once blues get darker they become harder to read (which is why we avoid it for moderation text) but could be possible.
I rather like pink but it's not to everyone's taste, so I think we were reluctant to force it on anyone.
Tweaking (or would that be Zephyring?) the shade of bronze is another option in play.
But yes Brisky, you raise a good point which is more important than it might seem at first glance, so we do want to get it right.
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The funniest thing is when the staff team were discussing Forum Ambassador the BIGGEST point of discussion turned out to be what colour they were.
Some said a light green but others felt it looked too much like a local mod, some said a tan colour but others said it looked ugly, bronze was the one we came up with but I can agree it does look pretty similar to a normal member. Gold would be too close too yellow which is a local mod, Orange is OK cause that's what the IRC moderator used to be when we had them, but that might also not look too distinct from local members. Pink was suggested and I think it was kinda a last resort option, it doesn't really clash with anything but it's also not a colour that comes to mind when you think "Forum Ambassador". Teal might be another option, but as some said it can be hard to read on a black background (especially for me cause I use a Teal theme-set).
All given Pink is probably the best option, what do you think of that colour brisky?
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I say orange would be good. I used to be an IRC mod, and I remember the particular shade of orange being enough to stand out from normal members without it sticking out too much.
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Regarding to pink, it would be a very suitable colour for the FA role, but as Trixie said, it may not be to everyone's likings. Although the problem could possibly be alleviated a little bit by picking the proper shade, I think that it still wouldn't be ideal.
Something that I've recently noticed, however, is that there only seems to be one single local moderator, at this time, versus the four regulair moderators, and two global moderators.
I don't know if this is simply due to a timely lack of local mods, or that the local mod role is starting to loose it's place, but whatever it is, if for some reason the local moderator role get's removed, I think that that exact shade of green would be perfect for the FA role.
If it doesn't, or will not be at any time soon, teal or some other shade of blue would be very good options, indeed. But that then raises the problem of it becoming harder to read.
I'm shure that this problem could in turn be solved in various ways, perhaps by outlining the letters of the user's name, or putting a standard background colour behind the name, that makes it easier to read, but that does again add up as extra effort.
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Local mod is here to stay don't worry, we're just not looking for more local mods at this current moment (so they've dwindled)
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Just throwing it out there, perhaps pink could be the new local mod colour and ambassador adopts green?
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I don't think that that would be a good idea, as it'd be a really confusing thing to do.
Especially with how the staff has such a nice red-green-blue formup, as it is now, it would just be plain weird to take the green away from the staff, and replace it with some mixture of red and another colour, just because the colour would fit a new rank, wich isn't even supposed to be staff, a tiny bit better.
Making the FA role a diffirent shade of green than the LM would be an idea, I think.
The main concern is their distinguishness from regulair members, and not their distinguishness from other staff, after all...
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But staying on throwing ideas out there, what about making the FA role purple?
I feel like it's a suitable colour, with the only problem being that donators are arleady purple. But, perhaps now that donations are covered in the trophy / rewards / achievement thingy, the colour could be removed...
Just throwing that out there, aswell.
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Regular Member
Ambassador (bronze)
Ambassador (preset "orange")
Ambassador (approx. IRC mod orange)
Huh, I remember the IRC mod orange sticking out a little more. The preset "orange" in the color drop-down on the post page may be better? It's not quite the yellow of Moderator but sticks out from the dull orange of the regular member text. It's pretty much a bright version of the bronze, actually, in my opinion.
Better yet, we can just change the normal member color. :P
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Better yet, we can just change the normal member color. :P
Mind blown...
Evnamishko is best bear!
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Make all the members pink in full-on opressive regime style! :P
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why not make the color white,none have white
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Guest accounts are white.
Silver/grey could maybe work tho?
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I like the bronze; the resemblance to a member really emphasizes the community aspect of it.
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I like the bronze; the resemblance to a member really emphasizes the community aspect of it.
I agree with this. We could increase the number of paws shown to make it a little more obvious, perhaps.
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I like the bronze; the resemblance to a member really emphasizes the community aspect of it.
We could increase the number of paws shown to make it a little more obvious, perhaps.
Sorry in this is irrelevant, but why do I have so many freaking paws even though Cheza for example has more posts than me? Not that I dislike having this many. XD
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Staff paws work differently, basically. Based on tier, I believe.
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Not many people realise this but when you become a mod and have all those paws removed it actually stings A LOT ;)
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I have a solution for this whole thing in mind, I just need some time to put it together.
Not many people realise this but when you become a mod and have all those paws removed it actually stings A LOT ;)
Apparently you don't know, 1 staff paw is worth about 20 regular paws! :P
But in all seriousness, yes, staff paws are fixed.
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There we go. Switched Ambassador to bright orange. Also made all regular members white, which is something I meant to do a very long time ago but never did.
So there. :P
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Yeesh, now we look like ghosts.
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But I'm the real ghost here.
I managed to load a page right as the change took place, so the names around the top half were the original color, and the rest loaded in as white. That was kinda cool, though it confused me a bit at first.
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I'm not sure if I like the white to be honest, it looks so .. stale :S
The shoutbox, also, looks very messy now since there's hardly any color to distinguish who's the poster and all
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I've updated the shoutbox to show the names as bold and the times in italics. This should help make each part more identifiable.
Also forced the date to always be on it's own line, most of the time it was but it sometimes wasn't and threw off the look.
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Personally, I always thought it should be white. It just takes some getting used to since it's been dull orange for at least six or seven years or so (can't remember how it looked before the layout update).
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Hmm, there's also this against the TFF New Year theme, it kinda stands out too much tbh (unread posts/replies list)
I'd probably preferred an off-white or light gray to keep it distinguishable still from the texts which are also white.
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Hmm, there's also this against the TFF New Year theme, it kinda stands out too much tbh (unread posts/replies list)
I'd probably preferred an off-white or light gray to keep it distinguishable still from the texts which are also white.
That's a good idea.
Member (white/#FFFFFF)
Member (lightgray/#c0c0c0)
Member (#A0A0A0)
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Hmm, there's also this against the TFF New Year theme, it kinda stands out too much tbh (unread posts/replies list)
I'd probably preferred an off-white or light gray to keep it distinguishable still from the texts which are also white.
That's a good idea.
Member (#A0A0A0)
I like this. Done.
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That works much better! :D