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Furry Chat => General => Topic started by: saph the sergal on December 07, 2017, 07:59:19 AM
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Let it be known that on December the 7th of 2017 the Australian government voted YES to same sex marriage and that there were ) amendments to the bill.
i know someone who will be very happy to see this information for he is on the site and now can legally marry the one he loves and i can aswell 28 days from now as the bill goes to the stage of royal accent.
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/937618628635217920
Also in parlement this was asked by a MP to his partner with a Yes and it is on record
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/937618628635217920
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Meanwhile the MEP's that voted for yes (after having a deal) got backstabbed.
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Congratulations Australia! That’s great news.
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https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/status/938891751212716032 (https://twitter.com/TheTodayShow/status/938891751212716032)
same sex marriage is now a australian law
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Don't share too early, the parliament ransacked too many people and with the next elections this might be reversed.
They promised too many things too many people and betrayed too many people/
Congrats Australia, you've shot many people in the back and expect a counter-reaction, really great job T_T T_T T_T
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Now I can get a cute Australian boyfriend and have a reason to move there. HeeHee
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I'm so glad they opened to it! Though it'll be shot down most likely due to past events.
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Don't share too early, the parliament ransacked too many people and with the next elections this might be reversed.
They promised too many things too many people and betrayed too many people/
Congrats Australia, you've shot many people in the back and expect a counter-reaction, really great job T_T T_T T_T
I don't think that'll happen.
First of all the party that passed the Same-Sex marriage laws is actually the right wing party here. They're called the Liberal party but they are the right wing party of Australia, the only other major party is the Labor party and they're left leaning. So if during the next election, the Labor party gets elected, they'll keep it because they've always supported it, and it's unlikely the liberal party will reverse a decision they've already committed to. So unless the One Nation party gets in control (very unlikely considering currently hold only a few seats, and a lot of them have already been fired due to Citizenship issues).
Second of all, before the law passed there was a plebiscite, which was kinda shitty but did show that more than 63% of Australians supported the bill, without any amendments. Not all Australians voted as it was optional (but the voter turn out was considerably larger than any US federal election haha) but all the public polls also show a strong support by the general public for marriage equality, so reversing the decision would be a dangerous one politically.
Third of all, no one was promised amendments by the Bill, I have no idea where you got that from? The idea was proposed by Tony Abbott (who abstained from the final marriage equality bill) and was proposed by some of the campaign managers of the No Campaign, but no minister ever told anyone, or any other MPs, that amendments would be passed. The current bill ALREADY HAS several religious protections that allow, for example, priests to refuse marrying a gay couple, and can allow churches to turn away a gay couple, the amendments were to extend that to [any small business] and civil celebants (IE: people who weren't religious leaders, but in the eyes of the law should not be bound by religion). When the bill was proposed, everyone within the house and senate were totally aware that the bill had no amendments, and if they voted yes to this bill, with no amendments, then the bill would pass, with no amendments, and they still voted yes anyway.
Honestly, I don't know where you get your ideas about Australian politics but you definitely need to rethink your researching strategy.
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Sometimes the world isn't so mean after all. Wonderful news! I'm glad to hear about it. Have a great wedding.
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I don't even understand how this can still be a thing. Marriage practices certainly predates Christianity, and I believe it even predates Judaism. Thus, no religious institution can OWN marriage and determine who is eligible and who is not.
I never got this issue, and I am grateful to live in Canada. If one church does not want to merry two people from the LGBT, let them opt out in doing so, but they should not be able to prohibit such a union any further then that. On the other side of the coin, they are performing a public service, perhaps they should be more open.
I don't personally believe God sees gender. I think its only us that get caught up in it.
Post Merge: December 21, 2017, 05:52:53 AM
PS - I do fall under the LGBT umbrella, and I do at times struggle reconciling my marriage with my faith. This is something that hits home. There are disagreements from both conservative Christians and liberal Christians, they both have valid arguments to support their beliefs.
And there are bigger issues in the world, like people being homeless and starving. There are orphans without loving homes. And this is what churches and congress want to focus on. I just don't get it :(.
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As a devout Christian I have to say that, quite frankly, I don't care as much as others would like me to. I'm indifferent towards Australia accepting same-sex marriage. Or just same-sex marriage in general.
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I'm gonna have to join the park on why this is only a thing now, in Australia.
I mean, shure, this is great to hear!
But, it'll be 2018 in a handfull of days. Why only just now? What's been taking them soo long?
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Glad to see that they've finally passed it! hopefully their parliament doesn't **censor** obliterate it
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Glad to hear it! Hopefully it is smooth sailing from here for the Aussies.