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Title: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Tweak on November 11, 2015, 01:05:01 AM
Hi all,

It's been brought to my attention that a number of you have become concerned about a recent thread relocation resulting in a change in post counts.

When a thread becomes a dumping ground of random input then it ceases of be of use. Threads should not be used to post as much as possible to artificially inflate your post counts.

In my personal opinion, post counts are merely a number - they do not show anything but how often you have posted. They do not show how relevant or constructive this posts are nor how much they add to the community. Being worried about a number is not needed. My post count is likely lower than the majority of members here, but I'd like to think that I'm relatively important around here.

Whilst I understand that some of you are upset by the loss of your post count, at this time I am going to keep everything as is. If required, post counts can be removed entirely. Remember they are just a number.

Apologies in advance if this comes across strange, I'm tired and grouchy.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Cecilia Peromi on November 11, 2015, 02:05:59 AM
Hi Tweak! Am I allowed to post on this thread?
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: The Past on November 11, 2015, 02:10:46 AM
Yep, you can post. It would have been locked if you couldn't.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Cecilia Peromi on November 11, 2015, 02:14:03 AM
Okay, it feels weird just casually talking to the admin. You're a nice guy Tweak!
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: HollowOfHaze on November 11, 2015, 02:27:02 AM
Posting to a thread made by Tweak does not translate to a two-way communication with Tweak, sadly.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Cecilia Peromi on November 11, 2015, 02:44:17 AM
I'm starting to realize that. I just wanted to have a chat with him. Does he take PMs?
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Angder on November 11, 2015, 02:54:39 AM
I think he does, alternatively, go to his thread in the meet the staff board.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: George on November 11, 2015, 02:57:07 AM
How about we just not display post counts? It also caused quite a few problems recently when two users got personal about their competition over it, and I haven't really seen it do much good.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Tweak on November 11, 2015, 03:20:21 AM
Posting to a thread made by Tweak does not translate to a two-way communication with Tweak, sadly.

Or does it? >_>
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Jennifer Ambrosia on November 11, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
How about we just not display post counts? It also caused quite a few problems recently when two users got personal about their competition over it, and I haven't really seen it do much good.

for once I think i'd agree ^_^
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Keinai on November 11, 2015, 03:44:09 PM
I agree with that. I don't see the point to them tbh.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Cheza on November 11, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
I also think post counts are pretty unnecessary.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Timmy Fox on November 11, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
I don't mind them myself. I kinda like looking at other peoples' post counts. I like to see it not as a measure of who's "better" but rather a general measure of activity.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: George on November 11, 2015, 10:07:05 PM
I don't mind them myself. I kinda like looking at other peoples' post counts. I like to see it not as a measure of who's "better" but rather a measure of general activity.

Yeah, same, but with the drama they've caused recently, it seems like not everyone's mature enough for that. :(
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: HollowOfHaze on November 11, 2015, 10:09:43 PM
I think that posts counts should stay, less as a means of bragging rights, and more as a measure of how long/often someone is on. However, as George said, it seems like some people are not capable of being mathre on the topic.

I still don't think the poor actions of a few should detract from the experience of everybody else.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: The Past on November 11, 2015, 10:23:10 PM
It's basically a case of "why we can't have nice things."
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Wolxikin on November 11, 2015, 10:30:38 PM
I was kinda mad when it happened but I don't really care anymore XP
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Timmy Fox on November 11, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
I don't mind them myself. I kinda like looking at other peoples' post counts. I like to see it not as a measure of who's "better" but rather a measure of general activity.

Yeah, same, but with the drama they've caused recently, it seems like not everyone's mature enough for that. :(
In all my years here I must say I've seen very little drama caused by post counts. I do remember the ooooold karma system we used to have which did cause a bit of legitimate trouble.

And again, I agree that a post count isn't really a massively important thing, but it's still considered a standard feature of many forums and generally just something I find to be a "nice to have". Not for competition regarding who can post the most but rather for your own personal enjoyment, like, "Oh wow, I've got over 3200 posts here!" - and then that's a number I've acquired throughout my years of contributing to the forum rather than being an overly active member that just kept posting for the sake of increasing a number.

What I'm saying is, I don't think too much about the post counts but it would perhaps be a bit of a shame to remove that since it's such a basic feature for any forum to have. Rather - try and discourage competition and inflation of one's post count. There's already a rule that prohibits spamming and discussions that go overly off topic which could be attributed to posts where the sole purpose is to inflate your post count and also several high-traffic boards where your posts do not contribute to your overall post count.

And really, whilst a post count is the feature that's in the center of this issue - the users making it a problem is the ones actually causing the issue. Thus I think you should keep looking over the troublemakers and make it clear that such behavior shouldn't be encouraged on this forum, referencing the aforementioned no-spam rule as well as the no-drama rule as opposed to resorting to removing something as basic as a post count.

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Also, just for curiosity; Which thread is it that was moved? I haven't stayed too up to date with some of the newer threads floating around lately.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Wolxikin on November 11, 2015, 10:39:45 PM
It was the shy furry's den

And I agree with Timmy, I just liked it to see my level of posts and go "Wow I got to 100!"
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Tweak on November 12, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
It's nice to see a mature conversation going on here, I applaud you all.

Too often, a potential change has upset people and they've gone crazy. It's good to see some valid points from both sides of the fence.

I was kinda mad when it happened but I don't really care anymore XP

Tends to be the way, the sudden change I can understand would be a little upsetting, but really...we didn't remove any toes!
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Wolxikin on November 12, 2015, 01:18:56 AM
It's nice to see a mature conversation going on here, I applaud you all.

Wait were being mature?

twek i an hate u111!1!11111!1!!!

Much better XD
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: anoni on November 12, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
Was a proud day when I reached my 1,000 post, to make it memorable I made like a song, that featured I think 26 members or something.

Here it is! http://www.thefurryforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=20265.msg903530#msg903530 (http://www.thefurryforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=20265.msg903530#msg903530)

Without post counts that wouldn't happen, it's just nice to see whether you've reached a certain post-count and to have the cool alliterations next to your name xD
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on December 18, 2015, 07:39:27 PM
Wow... looks like a thing happened and I missed it.  Sounds like a good thing I did!


I admit I liked become a different creature at different intervals.  I take pride in my post count but only in the context that I feel I don't spam post and so it is measuring a contribution.


Another thing I rather like about them is that when older members return after a break it provides a clue.  Similarly when members change their fursona it also gives a heads up.


I haven't been here as long as, say Timmy, but like him I've never seen it cause drama before.


*insert quote about one bad apple spoiling it for the bunch*
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: G-Root Liska on December 20, 2015, 03:48:39 AM
I personally could really care less. Not trying to sound mean about it but I don't think a post count reflects much. To me its just a number and yes it does show how much time someone does spend on the forum but for the most part why should it matter.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Raven MacKenzie on December 20, 2015, 08:35:15 PM
[...] yes it does show how much time someone does spend on the forum [...]
Not really, in my opinion. I spend about 3 hours a day on the forum but I don't write everytime when I am online. And I think I'm not the only one doing so.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: George on December 20, 2015, 09:16:16 PM
[...] yes it does show how much time someone does spend on the forum [...]
Not really, in my opinion. I spend about 3 hours a day on the forum but I don't write everytime when I am online. And I think I'm not the only one doing so.

0r someone like me who mainly posts in Forum Games.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Raven MacKenzie on December 20, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
[...] yes it does show how much time someone does spend on the forum [...]
Not really, in my opinion. I spend about 3 hours a day on the forum but I don't write everytime when I am online. And I think I'm not the only one doing so.

0r someone like me who mainly posts in Forum Games.

Yes, you're right.
You see, Liska: The number of posts doesn't show how much time someone does spend on the forum. Every person is individual on that score.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: G-Root Liska on December 23, 2015, 11:19:02 PM
[...] yes it does show how much time someone does spend on the forum [...]
Not really, in my opinion. I spend about 3 hours a day on the forum but I don't write everytime when I am online. And I think I'm not the only one doing so.

0r someone like me who mainly posts in Forum Games.

Yes, you're right.
You see, Liska: The number of posts doesn't show how much time someone does spend on the forum. Every person is individual on that score.

I guess you do have a point in that matter. I forgot that some forums the post count doesn't add to your profile post count. However that doesn't make much of a difference too. Someone could literally spend 1 hour and post a hundred posts.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Alessia Starfurr on February 29, 2016, 11:35:06 PM
Hmm post count reset??? Didn't notice anything how recently was this? I don't pay too much attention to post count. There are Much more important things, like....Umm having fun roleplays with friends, Grammar.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: The Past on March 01, 2016, 12:49:19 AM
There was no post count reset.

There are a few boards (Random board, Forum Games, Fun RP) in which posts made in them aren't included in the profile post count. This is to prevent people inflating their post counts with spam.

There was a thread which was moved to Random Board because it became a random chat, and it made some people's post counts lower as a result. A number of those people got angry and caused drama in other threads. Due to that, there was discussion of removing the profile post count entirely since people take it so seriously. That never happened, and most likely never will.
Title: Re: Concerning Post Counts
Post by: Alessia Starfurr on March 01, 2016, 12:51:38 AM
Okay like I care like I said there are more important things than post count.