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TFF Central => Announcements => Topic started by: Tweak on January 10, 2012, 11:29:17 PM
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As many of you are aware there are talks regarding the introduction of SOPA and PIPA to reduce the impact on online piracy.
Whilst I fully support better piracy management the current legislation proposed by the above acts potentially disrupts the idea of a free-speech Internet. Any website which enables interaction such as the forums here are under risk of being affected by such acts and as such I personally oppose the introduction of them without a revision of how they operate.
I tend to keep away from politics particularly with a pending visa application to the USA but having been aware of this for some time I think it is time I actively shared the information.
Please visit http://americancensorship.org/ (http://americancensorship.org/) for information on how YOU can oppose the introduction of these bills as well as view the potential consequences. Every single member here can help to support the introduction of these acts within the US Senate and the House of Representatives.
This thread will remain unlocked for intelligent discussions - as much as I encourage free-speech, however, any flame wars or pointless posts will result in the thread being locked. It is here to raise awareness and enable you to act against it not to attack the US Government or others - they are not at fault.
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you go tweak!!!!
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I'm very afraid of this. I don't think any of us understand the full implications of this bill yet :/
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The company who started SOPA are coruppted. They are the same ones who made the soft where to start pritecy. Its highly unlikely that SOPA will get passed as the ecomic downfall it will cause, billions, many web sites run over the internet, if SOPA is passed then it will be like the great depression agein. There will be riots, not to metion vasit hack atempets. SOPA needs to be stooped.
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May I be the first to ask?
...How exactly will SOPA and Protect IP effect the Furry Forums. I mean, I hate SOPA and Protect IP as much as the next guy, but I don't see anything on the Furry Forums that even remotely resembles Piracy. Most people here use and draw Original Characters as opposed to fan characters, which would have been the only reason I could see that might have effected this forum in the long run.
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May I be the first to ask?
Mainly for the simple reason that it would allow the forums to be added to a blacklist from a simple complaint. Your signature image for example is not credited to whoever first created it, in this case it wasn't you. If the original copyright holder (or in theory someone stating they owned the rights to the image) was to complain about it's usage it could result in a lot of problems.
Currently, most people would contact us first, then it progresses to contact with the web host and the potential usage of a DMCA to remove the image. In the case of SOPA, a single complaint would, more than likely, lead to anybody using a ISP within the US to be unable to access the forums.
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Okay, I credited both Capcom for the Dancing Dhalsim sprites and Ani-Monster for the link to Ani-Monster's adoption site. Would that help?
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It was just an example. SOPA and PIPA are much more complex.
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Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc#ws)
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(http://d.facdn.net/art/wolfnamedleiton/1326863185.wolfnamedleiton_untitled.png)
This is hysterical! There are TONS and TONS of sites going on black-out tomorrow because of their opposition to SOPA...
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Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQaMgxa8MDg#ws)
this tells you alot you MIGHT not have known about how corrupt this bill aims to be
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.How exactly will SOPA and Protect IP effect the Furry Forums.
The other thing about SOPA/PIPA is that an entire website will be taken down, without warning, for just one infringement. All it takes is one, any one, member here posting one, JUST ONE comment that in some way violates copyright law, and the whole site can be removed, without a trail, without a chance for the site owner to take the comment down, without anything. Therein lies the largest problem with this, the lack of due process. Normally if you break copyright law you have to be sent a take-down notice, given warning and a chance to comply, and you can counter-file that the take-down isn't legit, or even go to court to defend yourself. These laws would remove all that. No chance for defense, just *poof* gone.
Now just imagine you're a troll or a hater who doesn't like this site. Set up a fake account. Make an comment that breaks copyright. Report this site to the government, BAM! site is down. So ANYBODY can pretty much sink ANY site they like, just because. Just for fun even! The only way for a site to defend itself is to not allow members to comment. And what point is a site then? We'd roll the internet back to web 1.0, when user-generated content and social media didn't exist.
It's possible the courts will end up interpreting the law differently, but as it's written now, that's what can happen with it. So yes, it's very scary!
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SOPA & PIPA HORROR STORY Exposed in the UK Richard O'Dwyer by Mike Mozart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS5rSvZXe8#ws)
.... yep there still trying
download the video, copy the link and repost it every where.
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.How exactly will SOPA and Protect IP effect the Furry Forums.
The other thing about SOPA/PIPA is that an entire website will be taken down, without warning, for just one infringement. All it takes is one, any one, member here posting one, JUST ONE comment that in some way violates copyright law, and the whole site can be removed, without a trail, without a chance for the site owner to take the comment down, without anything. Therein lies the largest problem with this, the lack of due process. Normally if you break copyright law you have to be sent a take-down notice, given warning and a chance to comply, and you can counter-file that the take-down isn't legit, or even go to court to defend yourself. These laws would remove all that. No chance for defense, just *poof* gone.
Now just imagine you're a troll or a hater who doesn't like this site. Set up a fake account. Make an comment that breaks copyright. Report this site to the government, BAM! site is down. So ANYBODY can pretty much sink ANY site they like, just because. Just for fun even! The only way for a site to defend itself is to not allow members to comment. And what point is a site then? We'd roll the internet back to web 1.0, when user-generated content and social media didn't exist.
It's possible the courts will end up interpreting the law differently, but as it's written now, that's what can happen with it. So yes, it's very scary!
Very good point you made here. Trolls probably would do stuff like that if they realize they can. It's really just another huge flaw in this bill if it gets passed.
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Anonymous Operation Blackout - STOP SOPA (Most Important Operation in Anon History) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEsW25bmFsQ#)
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On a much better side of the story, here is actually a link mentionning that president Obama has put a Veto on SOPA. Now, this may be a good news but... It's only on hold and it will strike back unfortunately. Bt I'm happy to see that someone as influent as the US president is standing up against this SOPA bill and that he takes part of the internet freedom and free access to information. That shows that Obama is standing up with his american citizens and I think it can only be a good thing.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/)
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That's good to hear!
Now just for PIPA to lose support...I'm worried that people will begin to back down now that the day of online-protesting is over. Hopefully everyone realizes that PIPA is still active. Luckily one of my Florida senators has already detracted his support for PIPA, I hope others will do the same. SOPA isn't the only problem.
I had the misfortune of sitting in class today-asking people what they thought about it-and all I really heard in response was "eh, you wouldn't want your copyrighted work stolen would you? The government wouldn't abuse its power, no one would abuse it, I mean cmon!"
I wish people could understand that this legislation is so much more encompassing than what they have been lead to believe. As was pointed out earlier, one complaint, and BAM, the offending site is blocked-no due process. Which is one of the key problems I see here, the lack of due process.
Hope this messy piece of legislation gets sorted out properly...
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Well, Apparently Canada's come out with a SOPA clone now....
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/right-click/bill-c11-could-bring-sopa-online-piracy-laws-212657243.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/right-click/bill-c11-could-bring-sopa-online-piracy-laws-212657243.html)
And with Harper's majority government...... This is not looking good.
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we need to focus all our attention on this new ACTA bill
its way closer to being passed and is TWICE as bad as SOPA
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they used SOPA to distract us from the REAL monster
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we need to focus all our attention on this new ACTA bill
its way closer to being passed and is TWICE as bad as SOPA
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they used SOPA to distract us from the REAL monster
Honestly, I'd be surprised if a riot DOESN'T result from this bill. ...Or worse for that matter.
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In Poland, tens of thousands of people went out in the streets.
Protesty przeciw ACTA w Polsce (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM0AziuWK2s#ws)
For the corrupt prime minister, conspiring with foreign corporations is called "negotiating" or "consulting" but the voice of his own people is an act of "sabotage". >:(
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Well, Apparently Canada's come out with a SOPA clone now....
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/right-click/bill-c11-could-bring-sopa-online-piracy-laws-212657243.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/right-click/bill-c11-could-bring-sopa-online-piracy-laws-212657243.html)
And with Harper's majority government...... This is not looking good.
Meh... Seriously, this doesn't even surprise me at all T_T Everything that the US starts, Canada recreates it. And this stupid majority concervative gouvernement is crap <.< And I have to agree that with this guy, it's indeed not looking good >.>
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america really needs to step up its game.
with the passing of time, were slowly forgetting WHY our country has so much freedom...cause we FOUGHT and kicked ass for it.
we need to get back up, and actively fight this. not just complain
we should use our voices
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People should not be afired of there goverment, goverment should be afarid of there people.
Now bill c-11 is trying to get passed, in Canada. this will be close to SOPA
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People should not be afired of there goverment, goverment should be afarid of there people.
Now bill c-11 is trying to get passed, in Canada. this will be close to SOPA
C-11 is way worse the SOPA was.....like you know that CD you bought and you want to rip to your iPod? NOPE won't be able to do that....or back up your DVDs? nope...I hope Harper realizes what it actually is and doesn't let it pass...
and the funny thing is...the companies that started all this...are the ones that originally put out the piracy software....
not to mention the Illuminati....
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Wouldn't it be funny if this all turned out to be a huge April Fools joke?
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:) thanks for the website :p hopefully these ridiculous laws never pass
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really? i havent heard of either of these lol i guess im a bit behind in time :p ty ill be sure to look them up :D
:) thanks for the website :p hopefully these ridiculous laws never pass
Thankfully SOPA was killed a few months back as a result of the internet-wide blackout (and help from Anonymous). Now we just need to get rid of CISPA and ACTA.
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The dead thread has RISEN! 0:)
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Dead thread was dead for a reason...
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