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Title: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: BlackwidowX745 on January 07, 2007, 05:40:12 AM
I think the ps2 and psp are most appropriatly priced and maybe the Xbox 360 but no way the ps3 is a good price
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 07, 2007, 12:28:28 PM
Well consider the amount of technology that goes into the developing these consoles.

As an example (and I've been following the development of this console closely) a Sony PlayStation 3.

A majority if people want faster, better consoles that do more and more  all the time.

A PS3 has a 7-cell processor to churn out very near photo-realistic graphics. This took years to develop (by IBM I think)

Also has a Blu-Ray DVD player. This on it's own costs £800.

Sony are losing about £200 for each console they sell.

Compare this to a Nintendo Wii.

Nintendo have taken a diffrent route. They have concentrated on playability rather than in your face graphics.

Processing wise, it's not much more powerful then the GameCube, so it's really old technology with the added bonus of the motion sensing.

Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Theridos on January 07, 2007, 03:03:05 PM
Yes but thats the thing GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE A GAME. GAMEPLAY MAKES A GAME. -.- I mean look at starcraft it's still played among millions today. Do you know why? It's because the gameplay awsome. So don't judge games on graphics. Games aren't ment to be played not looked at god!
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 07, 2007, 03:23:29 PM
Psycologists have a theory that it makes games more sumersive, but it's not always not the case. I don't know why the want to make the graphics that good, if it was a film that's a different matter.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 07, 2007, 05:19:28 PM
you know the ps3 is actually worth more then it's sold for,
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 07, 2007, 05:26:46 PM
I'm not even going to quote what I said, shows who reads these things properly.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 07, 2007, 05:56:12 PM
I had this argument in another forums (at least that's where this is going) and it never got anywhere..
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Merekat4 on January 07, 2007, 06:06:33 PM
 :peek: OMG! I got to play with a Wii the other day.  Course that sounds slightly dirty when you think about it. (I'm gonna go home and play with my Wii ^_^) But I liked it and I had fun.  Then I found out how much the darn thing was.  :shcoked:  I was the same with the PS3 and the Xbox 360.  Heck no am I spending that much on a game console.  I remember a time when $400 would buy you ALL of the current consoles and a nice size chunk of the games.  Well let the console wars begin.  (Goes back to playing FF7 on the good old PS2)
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 07, 2007, 06:16:02 PM
i'm playing ff12,
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Theridos on January 07, 2007, 06:19:27 PM
Yes but thats the thing GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE A GAME. GAMEPLAY MAKES A GAME. -.- I mean look at starcraft it's still played among millions today. Do you know why? It's because the gameplay awsome. So don't judge games on graphics. Games aren't ment to be played not looked at god!
once again read the thing, Graphics don't matter. I mean look at it this way. Say you were playing some game with really awsome graphics. Ok now what if the game has really bad gameplay like the controls sucks or the the storyline is horrible. (which would be alot of the games out nowadays :/)
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 07, 2007, 06:26:56 PM
it makes the gameplay better though, yes gameplay matters but so do graphics lightly
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Theridos on January 07, 2007, 07:05:30 PM
not really if a game sucks for graphics but has awsome gameplay would you still play it?
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 07, 2007, 07:14:54 PM
It depends... I love playing the older games. But only the really great ones.  If it was an ok-ish one with cruddy graphics then no.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 07, 2007, 07:41:56 PM
well theiridos look at it this way, if theres 2 exactly the same games (like on wii and on ps3) and the ps3's ones graphics are better, or it could be the xbx360 but whatever, which one would ya pick?
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 07, 2007, 07:47:29 PM
I saw a video comparing Call of Duty 3 on Wii/360/Ps3. I prefered the PS3.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 07, 2007, 07:50:38 PM
thank you. I think this could show a bit of the ps3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31wsOQJfw4
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: PrincessWilly on January 20, 2007, 02:07:07 AM
Big controversy, I know.
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That is why I'm giving an unbiased opinion...
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Which is a first for me with gaming...
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 omg
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Graphics do not matter. Gameplay doesn't matter.
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What matters is what is the "cutting edge" and what is "popular"
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If graphics and gameplay were the basis, the dreamcast would have hit it off.
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This did not happen. Why?
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It was not popular.
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They did not advertise enough.
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Thus, the death of Sega, lack of hearsay.

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Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: PrincessWilly on January 20, 2007, 02:16:47 AM

I saw a video comparing Call of Duty 3 on Wii/360/Ps3. I prefered the PS3.


You saw the graphics, yes.
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Did you play it with the Wiimote?
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I can tell you from firsthand experience, it is much easier, and much more realistic to aim with the Wiimote than a controller.
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The only quip I had was when you had to drive the jeep, hard to do coz you have to hold the Wiimote and Nunchuck up like a steering wheel
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Really, you have to try the game on both systems to really see if the Wii's gameplay is beneficial.

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Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 20, 2007, 02:24:02 AM
i've seen the wii, 360, ps3. Ps3>wii/360
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 20, 2007, 08:22:39 AM
Wii includes to much movement for me... :P Like lightguns. Could never get on with those damn things.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 20, 2007, 04:24:20 PM
oh also I hate the thought of aiming with a remote for guns, it'd be easier but less realistic.  Great now youve gotten me into this conversation again which i've done with forums before.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: balzich14 on January 21, 2007, 02:28:46 AM
hmmmm ps3 is appropriately priced, because its sooo good and worth the $600.00
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: crustybread5 on January 21, 2007, 10:36:41 AM
I've had three different PsOnes, the first one the sound went on it, the second one the graphics processor got fried.
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: balzich14 on January 22, 2007, 03:23:06 AM
my friend only had to have one psone
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: PrincessWilly on January 28, 2007, 04:18:59 PM

oh also I hate the thought of aiming with a remote for guns, it'd be easier but less realistic.  Great now youve gotten me into this conversation again which i've done with forums before.


Actually that's not true.
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Once you get into the game (after about 10 minutes) you get sucked in just like with controllers, if not even better.
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To clear up some confusion, the Wiimote does not get tiring, or do anything to your arm. For instance, call of duty. The aiming uses very small motions. (more if you need more leeway with aiming, which can be changed in the options)
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What I do is sit in my chair, an arm on both armrests, and aim the Wiimote portion at the screen, it is not strenuous and actually becomes a lot easier to use once you get used to it.
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In call of duty, there was a fun portion where you held up the Wiimote and Nunchuck like a steering wheel and drove a jeep. This may sound hard and stuff but it was for a limited time and became really fun. That is what people don't understand about the Wii.
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The parts of games that use the Wiimote in this fashion are limited, and fun. They aren't strenuous because they only last long enough before they become so.
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The games that consist solely of these fun portions are built in a way so that they do not become strenuous.
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Basically, what I'm saying, is that until you try a normal game (not Wii Sports) for more than an hour, don't judge how the Wiimote is used.

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~Princess
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Theridos on January 28, 2007, 04:43:02 PM
meh, i have to go with willy on here. The wii is alot more fun. (loves playing Wii boxing <3)
I think because it's realistic the gameplay is better. (gameplay being the reason why i play video games.)
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: PrincessWilly on January 28, 2007, 05:48:24 PM
Yes, exactly!
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I was actually amazed when i heard "less realistic" talking about using the Wiimote as a gun, it's a LOT more realistic than a controller...
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Personally, I think people put too much into graphics these days.
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Graphics are good, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't play a game if it had gamecube graphics nowadays, however, graphics aren't everything.
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The Wii is the best innovation since the control stick was first introduced (the only other innovation being the PS2's camera thing), and it deserves respect for that.
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The thing is, people haven't tried the Wii, so they don't know how fun it truly is, and how easy it is to use, despite popular belief.

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~Princess
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Theridos on January 28, 2007, 07:13:38 PM
I know it's so much fun! Not only that, but it's a good work out to. I mean i love playing on the Wii. I also think graphics is what makes a game good. i think it's basically how much fun they are to play. Just like Starcraft. Now that game is fun!
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: PrincessWilly on January 28, 2007, 09:33:02 PM
Yeah, the ones that utilize the Wiimote are both fun, and a great workout!
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I can't wait to see what comes out next...

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~Princess
Title: Re: What game consoles r appropriatly priced?
Post by: Rhakshi on January 28, 2007, 11:30:54 PM
k I saw the wii twice yesterday and played it. And i'm not gonna lie, it was the biggest waste of money i've ever seen. I don't care about your opinions, and i tried the gunning thing and it's not realistic to me. (prefers guncon from ps2)