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Title: Issac's Rants
Post by: Lord Isscarus on April 13, 2017, 01:24:10 AM
Hey guys, Issac\Darwin here, and I have something to ask you.


A couple years ago I had long hair, it reached slightly last my shoulders and it was very healthy, looked pretty good for the most part, but recently I got it cut about a month ago, and I want to grow it long again.


Any tips for growing hair as fast as possible? I'm 14, so I might not have access to some of the options you guys will give me, so try to make it easy and doable, or at least in a teens reach.


Also, I had these massive cowlicks that always stuck up on the side of my hair, and they made it look stupid, any tips to avoid cowlicks? It was one of the reasons why I cut my hair in the first place.


Try to respond ASAP, I seriously want to have my long hair back.
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: Albie on April 13, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
Make sure you keep it clean and cut off split ends to help it grow.  For cowlicks I would recommend some sort of moose or gel.
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: Skall on April 14, 2017, 04:36:23 AM
The rate of hair growth is primarily affected by how often it gets washed and trimmed, it's texture or thickness, and genetics. For some people, they can grown their hair down to their knees with no problem, but it still takes a while for everyone.


Just take care to trim the ends at least once a month regularly, especially if it's thick.


To avoid cowlicks, I usually avoid going to bed with wet hair, because my hair gets frizzy and wavy. With shorter hair, it might not do you as much harm if it's damp, but never go to bed dripping wet. Some light spray might do you good, but apply that stuff from a distance.
Title: Life questions
Post by: Lord Isscarus on April 25, 2017, 04:10:40 AM
Hey guys, Darwin\Issac here, this post is about being social as a quiet guy, as I am one.


I have a good friend named Christopher, he's a quiet person as well, and be influenced me as being quiet, due to the fact that I hang out with him the most than my other friends, his silence eventually rubbed off on me, making me be quiet as well.


Being quiet is great, it allows people to think, it allows YOU to think as well, it makes you more mature, it makes you have common sense, it makes you more respectable and kind, your more approachable, you never annoy anybody since you actually can't annoy people due to the fact that you rarely speak, and so on.


I'm a quiet person, I never reveal my emotions at school or at home unless I'm around people who I'm personally comfortable with such as Christopher, I only speak when someone asks me a question or if I feel the need to speak.


I have a deep voice as well, so when I do actually talk, people pay attention since I have a deeper voice than most people.




And while this may all seem great, it's hard to be social as a quiet guy, people may find you weird since you seem so blank or emotionless all the time, or may not talk to you since they are afraid of your judgement due to the fact that they know you are quiet and judge people in your thoughts. People may also find you boring at times since you rarely even talk to them, they could also find you mean as they might not think you want to talk to them, hurting their feelings.


I have a decent amount of friends, about 5-10 to be exact, but I may want a bigger friend circle, or may try to look for a girlfriend to love and hang out with.


Do you guys have any tips? I tried using body language ,but I don't know how, am I supposed to be like a mime if someone asks questions? I don't get it.


But anyway, do you guys have any advice for being more social as a quiet person? And don't say "well just start to talk" because I prefer being quiet and locking my emotions away, as I prefer not to show my true self, and I hope you guys can respect that.
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Josh on April 25, 2017, 04:19:50 AM
I am pretty much the same

I find however, to be more social, using conversations as an example, stand there an listen and if you have an option on what someone has said, don't make a big deal out of it, just say what you think, keep it short if that's how you like it and then just listen to the response. That's probably exactly what you said not to say but it kind worked for me. I have a solid 8 friends :)
So I guess just smile a lot. I try and smile and I get smiles back. Everyone wins!

I don't know if any of this helps, I don't really know how to help people. But I try :)

If you want to talk with someone, I'm more than happy to.

Sincerely
-Me
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Jibz on April 25, 2017, 04:28:22 AM
Being quiet and social can be both hard and simple.

In terms of using body language, use it more when you're listening. Show the people around you that you are engaged in the conversation. It can be just following whoever is talking with your eyes or nodding or something like that if you agree. Body language is really powerful if you know how to use it and people know how to read it. So I'd just play around with it and see what feels natural to do in the situation that you're in.

You have to be careful though. If I were in a group with a quiet person, and they looked bored/not interested/left out, then I'd try and include them. And if you'd rather not talk and keep your opinions and what not to yourself, then you've got to show that you are in fact included and interested and engaged.

Body language can be difficult if you don't really know how to read it. I'd start by reading other peoples body language in your friend group and try to think about how they're actually feeling. Are they bored? Upset? Happy? Interested? Distracted?

Once you've got the hang of that, then try it out yourself and think, "If I were watching me right now, what would I think I'd be feeling?"

I hope that's helped you out a bit
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Albie on April 25, 2017, 04:41:22 AM
I used to be really shy and quiet and didn't like it, so I worked at it by just talking to people.  Many of the things that you say about being quiet are just incorrect.  Being more mature and having common sense has nothing to do with being quiet.  I yak to people all the time now and I am still kind.  In fact being quiet makes you more unapproachable as people tend to think you are ornery.

Body language is okay, but you need facial language to work.  Smile, and not one of those fake smiles.  If you are listening, make sure you seem like you are interested as it is easy to look bored.  If I talk to someone quiet and they only give me one word answers like yes and no and not actually trying to engage in conversation, would make me believe that person sees themselves as better than me.  You can be quiet, but don't be completely shut out.  There is a huge difference that many people don't seem to realize.

But some things you will find out are not good if you want to be social.  Like hiding your true self.  Most people catch wind of that eventually and if I am honest to someone about my feelings and they are not honest back, that is disrespect in my eyes.  I won't say "talk more", but you can't expect a huge social life if you close the social part out.
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Vortex Cynbel on April 25, 2017, 05:11:27 AM
Hey there!


WHOAH 5-10 friends is for me a huge amount! (considering that all these friends are close). You see I am a close guy as well. I don't really talk with people unless it's necessary. I really agree with you when you say being quite is great. For me it really helps me get my things in order. Personally I like being quiet.


Now about you. I wanted to ask.. why would you want to have more than 10 friends? (nothing wrong with that I am just trying to understand XD since we differ a bit it seems). I personally am happy if I have 3 but very very great friends. I wouldn't like to have more than that ^^; so I am wondering why do you want more friends while the ones you have already (assuming) are great? ^_^


Ok since most of the things you said about being quiet and whatnot apply to me as well here's my tip. I started becoming more social about a year ago. What happened to me was something similar to you. A feeling to communicate more with people and be open minded. One thing I hated was spending my time and effort to speak with people that are not worthy my time (in a way that people that I don't usually like) so I still didn't talk to thiese people. Although the people I found an internet in I started asking questions about them. I usually just sit back and observe what they are saying so I can answer myself to these questions. Although I found out if you ask these questions out to them they will most likely reply! ^_^ and before you know you'll get to be more open!


Hope I was a help ^^ if you need me anything you can always PM I would be happy to talk with you!
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Lord Isscarus on April 25, 2017, 07:09:59 AM
Albie, I'm saying that being quiet changed me that way, not that it changes everyone that way.


Read before you make assumptions please


And thank you for the advice you guys are giving me, I'll try to make it work.


Post Merge: April 25, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
Oh my bad, I forgot that I said "you" in every sentence when I meant myself. *slaps self in the face*


Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Vortex Cynbel on April 25, 2017, 07:35:17 AM
Glad we could help ^_^ Let is know how things go :)
Title: Re: Being more social as a quiet guy
Post by: Skall on April 25, 2017, 08:02:10 PM
Well, quietness and introversion aren't necessarily the same thing.


I suggest going out into the community, doing volunteer work where you'll have to communicate often. Animal shelters are a good example. Or maybe find a job in retail or food service--that helped me a lot with communication skills.


Another good way to exercise your interpersonal skills is to ask questions. Most people love talking about themselves, and you're still engaged with them, but the conversation isn't focused on you. Especially if the other person likes to ramble.
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 04, 2017, 02:25:37 AM
I don't have any split ends, do I still have to trim?
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: Albie on May 04, 2017, 02:28:01 AM
I suggest doing a trim once every few weeks.
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 04, 2017, 03:58:06 AM
I know but do I HAVE to for it to grow decently?
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: Albie on May 04, 2017, 04:46:08 AM
You probably don't have to, but it would grow slower.
Title: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 07, 2017, 06:10:07 AM
Hey guys, Issac here, I have another question


I have this friend named Aaron, and one time he called my mom a slut in front of me, so I got pissed and put him in a headlock, then forcing him into the ground, making him apologize.


But he didn't even try to get out, he just laid there, crying, begging for me to get off of him, the he ran to the kitchen, yelling that he almost went unconscious.


This is bullshit in my opinion, I've wrestled with my bigger and stronger friend, Ethan, who has put me in headlocks WAY stronger and harder to get put of than the one I put him in, and was no where near close to blacking out, I could actually easily get out, and I ended up beating him in wrestling every time.


There was also another time where I heard him called him pathetic for not doing something, then I pushed him out of the house and he didn't resist or even sound angry at all.


He also doesn't do anything risky, even small things like cutting a fruit, question is, why is he such a freaking wimp? I'm skinnier than he is, yet I'm a way better fighter and much braver, it just doesn't make sense, someone please answer this to me.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Jibz on May 07, 2017, 06:45:07 AM
Hi,

I don't know you're situation so I'm just gonna lay out my opinion from my knowledge and experiences.

Some people just prefer not to fight back.

There may have been something in his childhood that makes him scared to do anything risky, or maybe scared to be in a situation where someone else is dominating.

I'm not an expert but I'd say that may be the case? So just be careful with him and don't force him to fight.

It also sounds like he doesn't have a fighting personality. All talk and no walk.


Sorry, I hope that helps.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Salakar Crocoli on May 07, 2017, 07:32:39 AM
Different people express their emotions in different ways and you can't read their thought path that leads to that reaction, so everything I say is just conjecture. I for example used to cry whenever I was angry. It's possible that your friends also does it as some form of defense mechanism because something happened to them. If you really want the answer to your question it would probably be best to talk to him. The best solution is to talk to people, not about them.

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Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Josh on May 07, 2017, 07:44:00 AM
I think you were well entitled to headlock him. I'd get pissed if my friend did that. Idk him so I can't really tell what happened but there's not much you can do. If that's how he is then I guess that's how he is. You can't change someone but you can help them change themselves?

I hope that helped?
Sorry, I'm not that good when it comes to giving advice.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: John Red Beard on May 07, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
I'm actually wondering why you care that your friend is a wimp. Is it hurting his life or holding him back in some way, like for example, not asking for a raise even though he deserves one and less deserving coworkers have gotten one? Has someone other than you been violent with him and he's unable to defend himself?


For that matter, I'm wondering why you're being violent towards your friend. Sounds like he says some pretty hurtful things, but does that really justify violence? Especially against someone who is apparently unable to fight back?
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: MrRazot on May 07, 2017, 06:37:18 PM
I'm rolling with John here,


What does it matter that he's a wimp. Just because he's not a fighter doesn't mean he's all bad :P
It sounds at the very least he knows how to take a hit.
As for the head-locking, you need to be careful. Depending on how you lock him, even the lightest amount of pressure can cause someone to simply pass out. This is because the blood flow to the head runs along the sides of the neck. Disrupt it and the lower blood flow will make them pass out or even die after an extended time.


I personally hope you're not forcing him to do stuff with you or that he's that deprived of friendship that he puts himself through this, because the way you put it doesn't sound friendly.


He's scared of cutting himself while cutting fruit? That doesn't sound irrational. As a chef I can see when someone is scared of knives and when they use them and it's nothing really to be ashamed of (no one like using my knives because I keep them shaving sharp :P). What are you scared of?
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: MrRazot on May 07, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
As hair grows, it dries up. Because of the nature of keratin (the stuff that your hair is made of (and rhino horn too)), when it dries, it splits longways. This can cause hair to deteriorate and, I guess in some way, keep itself shorter. By getting a trim every now and then, you remove the split ends and that stops the splits from running all the way along to the root.


I believe that the shampoo Hair and Mane from Walmart for horses somehow actually speeds up hair growth.


Oh, also don't wash your hair every day. Maybe only every few days because washing can cause the hair to dry up and split faster.


Yes, I am a man  >.>
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 07, 2017, 06:44:08 PM
A major reason why I do these things is to help my friend toughen up and get used to life, I'm afraid he won't be able to fight back or defend himself when people jump him in the future, he has to know how to defend himself when I'm not with him, or else he could be hospitalized or badly injured, I care about him either way you know.


I can gladly justify why I put him in a headlock, he called my mother a slut and a whore, he has also slapped her one time, which both have angered me to a great effect, it's pretty normal to get angry and get violent if someone insults your family or hurts them in anyway.


He's a very naive and ignorant person, but he still has to know that talking trash about others is just not right.


The reason why I'm friends with him still is because he has disorders, such as ADHD and autism (I have no idea if those disorders lead to events like this, please let me know if they do) he is also suicidal, and I try to defend him from bullies, so I definitely care about him, but what if I'm not there? He has to know how to fight back.


It's just what I think, personally I think he has done some pretty dumb things in the past, but I'm much more mature and can handle more insults, usually I only get physical with other people if they get physical with me or my friends, back then I was way more sensitive.





Post Merge: May 07, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
Honestly I do care about him, I never force him to do anything, I just want him to be able to fight back if he has to.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: MrRazot on May 07, 2017, 06:56:41 PM
My "friend" took money from me to teach a lesson about leaving money lying around. He thought he was teaching me a lesson. I thought he was stealing my money (especially because he "lost it"). I personally don't care what justified the headlock, but I don't think anyone is justified to hurt anyone in any way. Let's ignore that you, being likely untrained, could have killed your friend. I hope you learn one day that there are better ways of dealing with things like this, and I'm not talking about talking to a parent, lmao.


There are more ways to helping toughen someone up than beating them up. Physical wounds may hurt, but it's the ones you don't see that hurt the most (not just internal bleeding, but mental issues). If you want to toughen him up, teach him by motivating him to want to learn. If you keep on failing Math, are you really going to want to actually try? I doubt it. Do you think that you go to the army and it's just all the officers getting to punch the hell out of each new recruit? No.


Hearing that he has autism explains a lot. I think you need to go do some research on that because yes, it has a lot to do with how he communicates with the world. If you're really his friend and want to help him, you'd do some research on this.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Ventus Fall on May 07, 2017, 07:55:41 PM
I want to state a few points on this.

1) Learning someone to toughen up by hurting them, be it via headlock, punching, yelling at them, etc. is definitely not going to help them.
It is, in fact counterintuitive. It might make them 'shut down' even more and thus you would have accomplished nothing but the opposite of what you wanted.

2) Just because someone insulted your family or anyone close to you does not warrant violent behaviour. If you are mature as you say you are, you deal with it in a mature way.
What's a mature way?
Talking about it, discussing. Why did he say or do such things? Regardless what the reason is, you can simply tell him and state it's not ok for him to say or do those things and it hurts you and the person he's talking bad about a lot.
If he decides to continue such behaviour, you need to make clear to him you can't be friends any longer.

3) Taking the previous points into account:
Friends do not hurt each other, friends talk to each other about their issues, friends help each other.

I was actively going to a class to learn How to stand up for yourself. Yes, there are classes and courses about this for every type of person all over the world.
If you want to help him, find something like that for him. Tell him you think he needs to be more confident. That you're worried for him and want to help him.
With confidence, with learning how to communicate to others, how to be clear what you want, you'll be able to achieve much more than by learning how to physically hurt someone.

Of course, martial arts and self-defense are always good hobbies and could -in the rare cases you might be attacked- help.
In martial arts they teach you not to fight, but to only do actions that prevent harm to you, and deflect the attacker.


That all aside, a few other points:

4) A headlock can kill, even experienced people -reported as accidental- kill people with headlocks. It's been really recent a few people got killed due to a police officer or officers performing a headlock on people.
Not only in the US, but in Europe too.
Maybe it's fun and games between you and others, but it's still dangerous. As for your friend, I would avoid doing that altogether with him. He clearly does not enjoy it. I think he's not a wimp. He has been showing you clear signs he does not appreciate that, that he does not see this as friend-behaviour, that it makes him feel bad and horrible. And yet you continue.

Once again, if you want to be an actual friend to him, stop hurting him.

5) Whether or not someone has autism does not explain his 'wimpy' behaviour or any of such things. However, he does experience certain issues which 'normal people' may not. But then, his autism might make certain things easier for him, which might be difficult for 'normal people'.
Indeed, I agree with Razot that if you want to learn and understand him, you need to learn about autism. Really learn about it and don't go to 9Gag or some website where they joke about such things, all people who clearly don't understand the condition.
BUT everyone is different, autism does not make someone more 'bad' or more 'good' than someone else. Autistic people learn things differently. They're not aliens, they are humans with brains that function differently.
If properly communicated, they can function just like anyone else. But doing the opposite will make them shut down to those around them.
Those suicidal thoughts you mentioned he has? You hurting him? For him, it might be connected. He might feel no one is really helping him, that he has no true friend.


So all in all: Don't hurt him, talk to him. Try to understand him and actually help him by pointing him in the right direction.

Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: John Red Beard on May 07, 2017, 10:22:14 PM
What Mr. Razot and Ventus Fall said.


Did your friend ask you to help him toughen up? Because if not, all you're doing is bullying him, which live Ventus said, is likely to be counter productive. And if your friend didn't ask you to do this, you have no place forcing your idea of what he should be on him. Maybe he doesn't want to tough.


Insults are no justification for violence, even insults to your mother. If someone called my mother a whore, they wouldn't be my friend anymore, but I wouldn't lay a hand on them. Slapping her on the other hand does justify force in response.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 08, 2017, 06:41:34 AM
Might as well be mature and realize what I just did.


I was blindsided of what I was actually doing by the thought that I was helping him in some way, I realize that was WRONG and I should never force somebody to be different or to something.


Thank you for helping me realize that, I will apologize to him as soon as possible and accept him for who he is, regardless of his flaws, I'm also sorry for not researching enough about autism, I'm an idiot for being so ignorant.


I feel idiotic now for so doing this, I kind of hate myself now, but I guess I've learned what to do now, I hope you guys have a great day.


Post Merge: May 08, 2017, 06:44:51 AM
I'm 14, and I would hate to stoop down to the level that most 14 year olds are on today.


John, your going to get to places in life, I like your reasoning, maybe we could talk personally sometime and maybe even RP.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Ventus Fall on May 08, 2017, 07:50:46 AM
I'm glad we could all help you with this. Don't hate yourself, you thought what you were doing was right. Sometimes someone -or a few people- need to tell you there are other ways of doing things. If you never heard of this from someone else before, it's easy to say and do things in the way you have always been doing.

Also, I hope I didn't come across as being harsh, I just wanted to come across as clearly as possible. It seemed to have been clear, but I just wanted to let you know :)

(Arguably John Red Beard, Razot and I all had the same reasonining, so I guess you like all three of our reasonings :P)
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Brigand on May 08, 2017, 09:55:43 AM
I don't know this guy so I can't really answer to that. It's awkward as **censor** to call your mom a slut if he's your friend, that's for sure.
I think you did the right thing, you can't always solve everything with words and "maturity". Ignore his behavior once and he'll try it again and again.

Also someone who is mature will realize that talking shit about someone can quickly end up in face beating, or headlock in this case. I'd headbutt this guy if I were you.

I don't agree with others here. If he called you a retard or a faggot just for shits and giggles then violence would be a bit too much, but calling someone's mother a slut deserves a proper and quick reaction.

"I will apologize to him as soon as possible and accept him for who he is"
Apologize because you headlocked him when he called your mother a slut? **censor** no, dude. Have some **censor** balls and respect for your parents.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: saph the sergal on May 08, 2017, 10:04:10 AM
ill say this and this only

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i have ADHD and aspergers [Content removed]

as for the violence: ive done exactly the same: arm near a bandsaw i just ignored it because i knew that my knee was not far from the emergency stop

having these mental health issues is something we need help with not having people sensly put us in headlocks

and oh yes: you can kill with a head lock very fast because both major arteries are down the sides of your neck one wrong movment and well thats a life sentence even possible death
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: John Red Beard on May 08, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
Darwin, it takes a lot of strength and maturity to admit a mistake and learn from it. I'm impressed. There's no need to hate yourself. Just learn, grow, and be better tomorrow than you were yesterday. That's all any of us can do.
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: MrRazot on May 08, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
*Guys, we're adults here. Take this somewhere else*
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 08, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
Saph, I understand that what I did was wrong and I should learn more about disabilities and how they affect people, but like John said, nothing justifies violence unless violence has already been justified upon [Content removed]
Title: Re: My friend is a wimp
Post by: Ventus Fall on May 08, 2017, 08:19:40 PM
Ok everyone, we decided to lock this thread. The purpose of this thread has been fulfilled, the OP has gotten his answer and knows now what to do.
Title: My friend is being annoying
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 10, 2017, 02:35:15 AM
Hey guys, Issac here, I need some help and I think you guys could help with this.


I have this friend named Ethan, were best friends actually, and we have pretty good times hanging out. But he can be pretty damn annoying sometimes.


There are times where I'm watching a TV show and he shows me literally every single meme he sees and expects me to laugh at it. He's very loud and shouts a lot, and as a quiet guy, this irritates me, he has a very annoying laugh, and is also sensitive, if I tell him something he is doing is bothering me, he gets all offended and yells at me, it really pisses me off sometimes.


There's also times where he makes assumptions, if I do one thing wrong, he calls me an idiot, and he assumes my emotions by looking at my facial expressions, such as if my face looks blank, he thinks I'm depressed.




Like I said earlier, he's very sensitive, if I tell him he's annoying me he gets all pissy about it, he's also very ignorant, can someone help me tell him how to grow a pair of balls politely to him? And yes he's in puberty, and I know that can affect how he thinks and feels, but I still think he's being too ignorant and clueless to actually know what he's doing.
Title: Re: My friend is being annoying
Post by: Fable on May 10, 2017, 02:44:42 AM
The best advice in any situation is to talk to your friend, tell them that you are being serious and you need to talk to him, even if he is sensitive you need to talk to him and explain that what he does bothers you.
Title: Life questions
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 10, 2017, 09:51:48 PM
Hey guys, Issac here, and I know I talked about this before but it's bothering me again.


I'm a teenager, 14 and a half, started puberty at 11, I'm growing armpit hair and pubic hair, I'm growing faster than usual, everything seems normal, but it's my voice.


Literally everyone's voice seems deeper than mine, my friends say I have a deep voice but when I speak all I can hear is a ten year old, when is my voice going to change? I know it's random for everyone but it's really bothering me how I have this high, pussy ass sounding voice that I hate, I'm surprised no one at my school bullies me for it.


But really? When should your voice change? 15? 16? I just need some info on this.
Title: Re: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Albie on May 10, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
It's hard to say.  Mine slowly changed from 15 to 20 so slow that I barely noticed.
Title: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Josh on May 10, 2017, 11:34:54 PM
Hey there. I'm 17 and my voice isn't deep yet either. I have a YouTube channel and when I listen to myself, I sound like I'm 12! I hate it. You're 14, nowhere near the end of puberty :P
You still have a while to go and your voice will only get deeper. Might I suggest however, joining choir. Our school has one and I joined it and apparently I'm really good because my voice is high. Plus it's really fun :3

So in conclusion, your voice isn't going to be super deep at the age of 14. Plus, everyone is different so no two people are going to have the same voice.
I hope this helps :)

Yours Furry
-Josh
Title: Re: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 11, 2017, 12:25:30 AM
I know I'm not even near the end of puberty yet, but it's really pissing me off. I have the facial features and height of a 17-18 year old and yet I have this high pitched voice that doesn't match at all, it makes me so furious that I break things sometimes.
Title: Re: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Fable on May 11, 2017, 12:59:00 AM
Everyone's body develops differently. It doesn't matter how tall you are or what you look like your voice will develop when it's ready/ when you are ready. breaking things and becoming frustrated will not make the process happen any faster. Puberty is a long process that you just have to accept and wait for.
Title: Re: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Blaiiine on May 11, 2017, 02:46:36 AM
Speaking from being a late bloomer, my voice ended up dropping in pitch around 19 or 20 and it's still a little higher than other guys my age. It's honestly random but seeing as you started puberty around 11, you're probably due for some kind of voice change soon.


Mind you, it'll be a period of awkward cracking and pitch changes for a while. Luckily you're in school so it's not as out of place unlike me, where mine kicked in during a job interview. And if anyone gives you crap about your voice, just brush it off. It doesn't matter in the end, and it just makes them look petty.
Title: Re: My voice hasn\'t gotten deeper at all
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 11, 2017, 05:44:56 AM
I know it won't help, but when your a teen with literally nothing to do every day, those years start to then into decades.


Post Merge: May 11, 2017, 05:47:13 AM
My voice has gotten deep at times, however no cracks at all, and the deep voice is only temporary, all my friends think i have a deep and masculine voice, I can't tell if they're just trying to be nice or if I just can't hear my real voice.
Title: Re: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Armalite_ on May 11, 2017, 07:52:20 AM
It was Grade 10 when I started to notice so I think I was 15 or 16? Everyone is different.

You're 14, if nothing happens by the time you're 18 then you should worry xP
Title: Re: My friend is being annoying
Post by: Armalite_ on May 11, 2017, 08:03:43 AM
I'm 24 and there isnt a friend I have that isn't annoying in some way, shape, or form.

I accept them for it, even though what they do sometimes frustrates me, I still put up with it as I expect them to do the same for me...because I am annoying too.

Nobody is perfect, being annoying is all in good fun and its usually how some people express themselves around those they're most comfortable with. I have friends who always play loud awful garbage music, friends who get so wasted I have to carry or drive them home, friends who talk loud and laugh at nothing, friends who never listen, etc. etc. but ALL of them would put up me when I did the same annoying things to them.

At the end of the day, you gotta accept your friends for who they are. Accept they are annoying but also remind them they are such and why. If you can't, then its as simple as not hanging out with that person. Friends come as packages, you get the whole deal. Generally people don't change on command, but they can at least apologize if you're getting really upset about it.
Title: Re: My voice hasn't gotten deeper at all
Post by: Michen_S on May 11, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
It's funny. Though my voice has changed over the years, there were times where I wish it hadn't changed as much as it did.

Back on topic. As said, everyone's voice changes at a different rate. There's nothing wrong with yours. And remember, somehow, when you're talking other hear your voice differently than you do. Try recording your voice and then listen to it, then you can hear your voice like others hear it. And regarding temporal voice changes, that's normal. It's a problem a lot of boys have during puberty, though far from all. It's different for everyone. Eventually your voice will stay on the same frequency, a lower one than your voice had before.
Give it time. Your body will take years to fully adjust. If you have nothing to do in that time, can I suggest finding a hobby? It's not worth just sitting down waiting for your voice to change.
Title: Is there something wrong with me?
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 18, 2017, 04:40:55 AM
Okay, I'm usually intact with my emotions, but ever since I turned 14 I knew something was been going on.


I'm in tech theatre for middle school, and we went on a school trip to the Texas Renaissance Faire and the school bus was a 2 hour long trip, so I decided to listen to some music and take a nap to pass the time. And I was about to fall asleep, but then I could feel the whole bus nearly tipping over, and I heard everyone scream as loud as they could, and I was aware of what just happened, but I felt no fear, in fact I was laughing at how everybody was so scared, people thought I was a phsycopath and stayed away from me afterwards.


There was also a time were my friends dog died and he felt very sad about it, of course I tried to cheer him up and distract him from it, but I felt no sad feeling at all, not even a frown.


There was another time where me and my friend read this news article about some man kidnapping and murdering tons of children and my friend said "this is horrible! Don't you feel bad for those kids?" And I stared at him for a moment with a blank expression saying "I never knew those kids, so no." And then he called me an emotionless freak.


The fact that I'm unable to feel sympathy and am not afraid of death makes me scared of myself. Is there something wrong with me? Everyone thinks I'm a freak......
Title: Re: Is there something wrong with me?
Post by: John Red Beard on May 18, 2017, 05:00:54 AM
There might not be anything wrong with you. It sounds like you used to feel more sympathy and fear, but that's changed recently. Is that accurate to say? During our teenage years, our brains and neuro chemistry change a lot. These changes can cause strange and scary emotional effects. Usually that means that emotions get amplified and confused, but other things can happen too. I myself went through a brief period in my teens where I wasn't feeling much sympathy for others, and it scared me too. But it passed. Hopefully it will pass for you too. If nothing else, the fact that you're upset about the lack of these emotions is a good sign. A dangerous sociopath wouldn't care.


Of course, if you're worried you might hurt yourself or someone else, talk to an adult you trust and try to get help.
Title: Re: Is there something wrong with me?
Post by: Josh on May 18, 2017, 10:50:37 AM
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Title: Re: Is there something wrong with me?
Post by: Ventus Fall on May 18, 2017, 11:00:23 AM
To be honest, a lot of people overreact. I understand why people would be scared of a bus tipping over or feel extremely sad for hurt/murdered people/kids, but there is nothing wrong with you for laughing at the situation or not feeling emotion.
Indeed, you haven't met or had any contact with those kids, so why would you feel bad?
Usually people react like that because it's socially-acceptable behaviour. They have be taught/learned how to do that and follow everyone else's example.

Of course others would find you odd for reacting differently.
Look, it's another story if you want to harm someone else, but having a different response than most people, nothing has to be wrong.

I get sad when my own pets passed away, but I don't get sad when human beings/people I've interacted with (sometimes for many years) pass away. I don't shed a tear or feel sad.
I'm not going around openly either about saying I don't feel anything, but I do understand why people feel sad, and that is what I play on.
Now if I would laugh at someone's funeral that's not only rude but disturbing. I'd not do that. So if such things happen, you might want to get that looked at.

I noticed I am able to help others when they feel sad, as I don't feel sad about the things they do. Often saying: "Look, I don't feel sad, but I understand you feel sad/upset. Or I try to. So while I'm not crying or anything, if you need me to do anything or you want to talk to me, please talk to me about it. I'm here."
That more often than not cheers people up somewhat. They sometimes need someone to be rational, someone who can lay it out for them it's not as bad as they might perceive it, that they can feel happy again.
Title: Re: Is there something wrong with me?
Post by: Brigand on May 18, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
Staying calm is way better than mindless screaming and panic. This attitude can help you in many situations. Plus you won't annoy other people by screaming like an ape. Nothing wrong with that, that's actually pretty **censor** good.

I don't see why you should care about death of people that you didn't know. It's just normal human reaction. Someone is being violently murdered, beaten or tortured while you are reading this.

In situations like that I just pretend that I care, I'll give a short response like "yeah, that's horrible/sorry to hear that" and change the subject. You're more of a rationalist while your friends are like "wow I didn't know that people can kill and die. Wow. **censor**".

So no, there's nothing wrong with you. I don't know if you're a psychopath, but not every psychopath is a chainsaw wielding maniac.
Title: Life questions
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 19, 2017, 03:25:59 AM
Hey guys, Issac here, I used to be a quiet person and was very mature, wise and respectful, however I've been conversating and I'm starting to lose it, I'm getting more arrogant and naive, and hardly think of my choices anymore.


And yes, I WANT to be a quiet person, regardless if it's good or bad.


Any advice to get me go my mute self again? I miss that version of me.........
Title: Re: Life questions
Post by: Willow the Jerboa on May 19, 2017, 03:32:59 AM
Well I am new here and so I understand if you just look past this...


But one thing I can say that might help is to try Meditation. Calm you inner self and become charged with the person you want to be.
Title: Re: Life questions
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 19, 2017, 05:38:36 AM
Why would I look past what a new person says? Even new people can have significant and helpful thoughts and opinions.


I'm an intellectual, or at least I call myself one, so I try to respond in the most logical ways. And thank you for your advice, I will try meditation, sounds calming.
Title: Re: Life questions
Post by: anoni on May 19, 2017, 12:06:18 PM
It shouldn't be about going back, it should be about adapting. Find your faults specifically, what parts do you not like about your new self specifically, what parts should you work on trying to solve?

I'm sure you're looking at your past self with nostalgic eyes, there were probably many shortcomings of your past self too.
Title: Re: Life questions
Post by: Willow the Jerboa on May 19, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
And thank you for your advice, I will try meditation, sounds calming.


If you need any advice on Meditation just let me know
Title: Re: Life questions
Post by: Michen_S on May 20, 2017, 09:24:29 AM
We constantly change. You don't necessarily need to go back to your quiet self.  Take your time to learn about your new self. Try to improve your new flaws, or use your new strong side to your advantage. Or, maybe it's temporally anyways. Maybe you're frustrated because of something that happened recently. I don't know, I can't tell.
If you want to calm down, many things can help. Listen to music, take a walk, watch an episode of your favourite show, take a shower, get something warm to drink, hug a friend... Whatever helps you relax. Just take your time.
Title: Need help.........again
Post by: Lord Isscarus on May 21, 2017, 08:08:08 PM
Hey guys, Issac here, I need help with one of my friends.


Now you guys have probably seen more than a few posts of me needing help, and you might call me lazy or dependant, well I'm not, I actually need help


I realized that I was treating my friends like crap and decided to respect him more and treat him better like I should have, he has multiple disabilities but I do not care because that does not hinder his personality, honestly I think he's a creative and fun guy to hang out with, his name is Aaron.


While I'm being much nicer and respectful towards Aaron he tends to not no what he's doing, in other words he doesn't have self awareness.


He could do something weird and dismiss it as completely normal or forgot what he was doing, I'm not making fun of him for this, he has autism and ADHD, so of course he will act different, and I am aware that his disabilities might be the cause of this, but I'm afraid it might hinder his future.


I don't want him doing something weird or unacceptable and have people making fun of him for it, I want him to be more conscious of his actions that way he can be more approachable in the future.


He's also very snitchy, he always tells embarrassing things I've done and tells things that we do regardless if he knows I don't like it.


I know what your thinking "get a new friend" NO I will NOT, he is funny, creative, caring and makes me happy when I see him happy, he's a great guy, I'm just trying to help him out by him being aware of his actions, and he's, I've told him that it bothers me, be usually forgets though.


Any advice?


Post Merge: May 21, 2017, 08:10:11 PM
Sorry if I misspell things or have bad grammar, I have large hands which makes it difficult to type correctly on my phone.
Title: Re: Question about hair
Post by: anoni on May 23, 2017, 03:57:36 PM
Hey there!

  You've been making a lot of different R&A threads so you've been causing a bit of clutter. So I've gone ahead and merged all your R&A threads together into one thread, anymore R&A questions you have you should post in this thread (unless it's been long enough that this thread gets auto-locked).

  I've also gone ahead and changed the title to "Issac's Rants" as the title defaulted to "Questions about hair" and I thought this mightn't be the best title. However, feel free to change the subject title to whatever you like (just edit the first post in the thread).

  If you get confused about which posts were belonging to which thread, the subject of the post is still the same. So a post with the subject "Questions about hair" is concerning that thread specifically.

  Hope there is no serious inconvenience.