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Furry Chat => Tech Central => Topic started by: The Past on July 29, 2016, 10:07:39 PM
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Windows 10 has been out for a while and there's 7 hours until the free offer ends. Should I bother getting it?
I'm asking people who have a decent amount of experience with it and are actually knowledgeable with it, given I know a lot of people jumped on the "I HATE CHANGE AND IT SPIES ON ME" bandwagon, while at the same time there are a lot of shills blindly claiming it's the "best OS ever!"
Are the privacy features as bad as they say, and can they be changed? Does it run okay? Did you hate it at first but find it was good? Did you like it at first but find serious issues later? I need honest answers here!
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I think it runs fantastically. I've had no major problems, and honestly the only minor problems I've had are ones I've experienced on other OS's before, particularly occurring very shortly after installation. Once you've run it through its paces, it's good to go.
I don't concern myself with privacy problems because, well, I don't think I'm that interesting enough to watch x3 And I was say it's probably the fastest OS yet. Anyone claiming they experienced any sort of "slow down", well it's probably their machine or something they don't have set up right. Granted no two Os installations are guaranteed to be the same but, I've installed 10 on 7 machines so far, including three desktops in my apartment and on my Surface 3.
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Windows 10 > Windows 7 > All windows versions
Get asap :P
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My dad and I both installed Windows 10 and we haven't found any problems so far. I made an effort to disable any data collection stuff I can and will be looking into how to secure it more later, but for now I'm not too worried.
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dont like it at all because most of the stuff is there to take data (keystrokes and everything) so not upgrading to it cant now since gotta pay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kGMCfb2xw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kGMCfb2xw) alot of info evna for disabling the stuff
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Holy crap! Thank you. It pisses me off that they're so scummy with this stuff. Even if their data collection is "no harm", it collects stuff they have no business tracking and takes up data for those with capped internet usage (thankfully I have unlimited). It's a shame too. I like the rest of the OS so far.
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yea im not a fan of it at all and if anyone brings out the google argument
its not on the lvl of personal pc and keystrokes
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You guys should know even before (from xp and vista times) windows collect info from your pcs without warnings so why the big deal? Even on your smarthphone is the same way...
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the error reporting ones is just that error reports
this is a whole new lvl
keystrokes
voice data
handwriting
searches
alot more privacy stuff then anyone thinks and this is sent all back unencrypted to their servers
heard of man in the middle attacks?
also i dont want them knowing everything i open to improve their services when its just sold off to others go read the eula you will see
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You guys are kinda overreacting honestly ... All of that has been done since the Windows XP times as form of telemetry. The most sensitive data it also gives you the option to disable the first run after updating .
The only true difference from what is already done in i.e. Windows 7 is that they now are more transparent about it and actually give you the options to disable it.
But perhaps you guys prefer when it's done without the slightest hint of knowledge? (AKA Google, Apple, Facebook, Windows xp/7/8 etc.)
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keystroke
you know what that is?
its everything you type on a keyboard
passwords, usernames, bank information, real name, address, phone number
Post Merge: July 30, 2016, 05:51:54 PM
also i got smart and packet sniffed all my net traffic and anything that went to microsoft servers was put on a ip block
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I'm well aware of what you mean. I'm just saying this is not exclusive to Windows 10.
If you go on Google you can find a history of every single thing you've searched for.
A guy was recently arrested because the NSA found out that someone used the same IP Address on Facebook as he did iTunes and thus was able to track him using that.
Basically he made a single itunes purchase and thus they knew exactly where he was located.
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no crap i know how ip tracing works
i also know of what google does but again
this is the lvl of personal computer and its not just keystrokes its all non encrypted
thats why i refuse to move from windows 7 (and i also kept a eye on the updates to avoid to remove the telemetric data that they tried to push down
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That's quite close minded though...
If you really wanted to get away from this you wouldn't be using Windows in the first place.
Sure there's those controversial updates but do remember that this started already with Windows xp and there's still a lot of telemetry going on in Windows 7 directly out the box.
The only way to truly get away from it would be to compile your own version of Linux and never ever use the internet ever again. If you would even use a computer at all.
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why bother since ive got the telemetrics ip looped remember the 127.0 trick :P
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Ok, that trick works in Windows 10 as well so why hate Windows 10 so much because of something that can so easily be turned off with the trick you mention?
Alternatively, for anyone else... Problem solved:
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timmy thats one fix to mutiple issues and takes knowlage of editing files and not messing it up
and i just hate they way they pushed and nagged then hide the optis and didnt even mention it unless you read through the eula
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How is a simple on/off button the end of the world?
If you'd read the Eula you'd realize that Microsoft is actually one of the most transparent people with what they're doing and, regardless of your opinion on it; EVERYONE DOES IT. Google, Apple and Facebook are 3 examples that do this to many worse levels. Microsoft is actually being very reasonable on this level.
Also, the video you linked I would honestly not put too much trust into because remember this is a guy who's been quite biased against Microsoft ever since he got fired.
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Just kinda poking my muzzle in...
I don't really mind Windows 10 as much as other people do. I've heard countless of people hating on it a lot, and it's fine that they give their opinion. I just don't really mind it. I actually think it looks pretty good, too.
Also, I guess I don't mind the different settings getting "replaced", or whatever, either. I don't really mess too much with them, and the ones I do mess around with, I find easy to find :)
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I think we should just be happy Microsoft/Windows 10 actually lets you know what information they're getting, and at least has the options to disable them :V
If you're afraid about what sorta info they collect on a computer operating system, I really hope you don't have a credit/debit card, or any affiliation to the bank at all, an ID, have your fingerprints ever collected, have a cell phone with any sort of contract or service provider that isn't a pre-loaded card, any sort of internet connection at all, and consistently hide your face at the sign of any sort of surveillance.
That being said, they're all terrible excuses to miss out an a stellar operating system.
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I already knew about the windows 7 telemetry stuff and I disagree with that too. I also already know about those other stuff like debit cards and whatnot, but those are fine because that's necessary for them to function. The OS doesn't need to phone home with data constantly. My issue is that I don't want connections while I'm doing something that doesn't need those connections.
I don't think they're staring at every little thing I do, I'm not that paranoid. Hell, I don't even think they're being malicious at all with telemetry and I totally get why they do it, I just disagree with their methods and want no part in it. I'm not interested in the services they track data for and want to use my computer without it storing crap in a cloud without my say. It's not that much to ask.
Not all the people against the telemetry crap are tinfoil hatters, though admittedly a lot of them are.
That said, I like the OS so far. The only issue I've come across is EqualizerAPO isn't working anymore so my USB headset is stupidly loud at 2%. I don't hate on Windows 10 for that, though. It's normal for a few things to bug out with new OS's and it's a minor problem in the long run.
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I don't mind it, I use Windows 7 for my laptop and windows 10 for my gaming/art computer. Some things are pretty funky, and I haven't found a way to disable Bluetooth yet, but there are options to disable most things that make the comp run slower, which is nice. I didn't upgrade to Windows 10 on my laptop only because it would make it unusable (it used to be a windows 98 laptop, then windowsXP, now 7) and I prefer the look of windows 7 a bit better.
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I got Windows 10 after a month or two of reviews when it was first announced, if I recall correctly. Either way, after weighing positive and negative, I opted into the free upgrade.
It was so worth it when I did. The upgrade smoothed out issues I was having with 8.1, including crashes, downloading errors and overall slowness. I also felt so happy when I saw the "Home Screen" shit was gone. The start menu was far nicer than that ever was.