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Creative Arts and Media => Music => Topic started by: Vick Dastardly on May 15, 2016, 10:17:11 PM
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Hi, this is a place for all Pink Floyd fans to discuss music,history,and more relating to Pink Floyd
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Good call! OK, I love Pink Floyd. I'm not as keen on the Syd Barrett era and tend to pick and choose, but the Roger Waters and David Gilmore eras are really what I adore!
But I was a bit disappointed by The Endless River.
How about you Vick?
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Good call! OK, I love Pink Floyd. I'm not as keen on the Syd Barrett era and tend to pick and choose, but the Roger Waters and David Gilmore eras are really what I adore!
But I was a bit disappointed by The Endless River.
How about you Vick?
Syd Barret was very influential to Pink Floyd's psychedelic style so I do enjoy the early years. But nothing beats Rodger Waters and David Gilmore. I actually liked endless river, I think it gets a bad rap because it's not like other albums, I dig with Atom heart mother and division bell.
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If I made a greatest hits of the Syd Barrett era it would love it, but I find it a bit hit and miss. Of course that's the nature of experimentation and the funny thing is a lot of people find it hit and miss but disagree on which are the hits and misses! XD Arnold Lane and Bike have a soft spot in my heart ^_^
I feel kinda guilty about Endless River, it was meant to be an album you listen to in one go, like in the "old days" but I enjoy it more in a shuffle with other stuff. I just would have liked a few more tracks with vocals basically. Even so as a way of giving Richard's playing one last outing I'm so glad they did it.
I really liked Division Bell, it cops a lot of flack too. I know Roger slagged it off, and I think he has the right, but I easily like it more than Momentary Lapse.
Do you like any of the members' solo albums? I've listened to some of Gilmore's stuff and Richard Wright's albums and liked them OK, but I really adore Roger's solo albums. Pros and Cons gives me feels on every song even though for years I never new most of the lyrics XD But Amused to Death is really a masterpiece. I read he's actually working on a new studio album which would be awesome... *fingers crossed*
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If I made a greatest hits of the Syd Barrett era it would love it, but I find it a bit hit and miss. Of course that's the nature of experimentation and the funny thing is a lot of people find it hit and miss but disagree on which are the hits and misses! XD Arnold Lane and Bike have a soft spot in my heart ^_^
I feel kinda guilty about Endless River, it was meant to be an album you listen to in one go, like in the "old days" but I enjoy it more in a shuffle with other stuff. I just would have liked a few more tracks with vocals basically. Even so as a way of giving Richard's playing one last outing I'm so glad they did it.
I really liked Division Bell, it cops a lot of flack too. I know Roger slagged it off, and I think he has the right, but I easily like it more than Momentary Lapse.
Do you like any of the members' solo albums? I've listened to some of Gilmore's stuff and Richard Wright's albums and liked them OK, but I really adore Roger's solo albums. Pros and Cons gives me feels on every song even though for years I never new most of the lyrics XD But Amused to Death is really a masterpiece. I read he's actually working on a new studio album which would be awesome... *fingers crossed*
. I really dig Radio Kaos from Waters, it has that perfect amount of prog combined with 80s rock. I love Water's music so much because it has story and depth if you get what I'm saying. I also really like Rattle That Lock by Gilmour. Fun fact, did you know Pros and Cons was actually written alongside The Wall. When deciding [/size]to choose an album the band picked The Wall because they felt Pros and Cons dealt with Waters personal life to closely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91UBcIj7JWs a good medly of Roger's music from a sad film
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Yeah, I'd heard that (about Pros and Cons) and the band chose the Wall. Would be interesting to have heard how Floyd would have done it.
When the Wind Blows is SOOO good and really under-rated. I honestly can't listen to Hilda's Dream/Folded Flags enough. I'd learn guitar just for that song. The rest of the soundtrack album is good too. Nice Bowie track on there!
He did a song for the Last Mimzy soundtrack too. It's almost like a pastiche, but I like it anyway. Speaking of which, have you heard this Floydian sounding song from Ren and Stimpy? I will often put it in a PF mix XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYQlhPmVpLY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYQlhPmVpLY)
Bit of personal trivia, The Wall was the first CD I ever bought! And Shine on Crazy Diamond 1- 9 is on my songs for my funeral playlist! XD
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Yeah, I'd heard that (about Pros and Cons) and the band chose the Wall. Would be interesting to have heard how Floyd would have done it.
When the Wind Blows is SOOO good and really under-rated. I honestly can't listen to Hilda's Dream/Folded Flags enough. I'd learn guitar just for that song. The rest of the soundtrack album is good too. Nice Bowie track on there!
He did a song for the Last Mimzy soundtrack too. It's almost like a pastiche, but I like it anyway. Speaking of which, have you heard this Floydian sounding song from Ren and Stimpy? I will often put it in a PF mix XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYQlhPmVpLY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYQlhPmVpLY)
Bit of personal trivia, The Wall was the first CD I ever bought! And Shine on Crazy Diamond 1- 9 is on my songs for my funeral playlist! XD
I've never heard that before lol it does sound alot like Floyd. This is a great debate question, Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin ?
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Oooh, that's a big question! If you include their influence then Zeppelin were a big influence on Queen so lots of kudos there. However, for me I think while LZ were really groundbreaking and I love a bunch of their songs, every album has some tracks I think are just OK. And I just never feel that way about PF. All killer, no filler as they say!
What's your take Vick?
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I like them both, But I only listen to LZ when I'm in the mood to listen to them, unlike PF which I can listen to all the time no matter what mood. I disc jockey for work so I'm exposed to a lot of music, I tend to play songs that I feel will please the audience the most. On my station I play more LZ then PF because people enjoy LZ more. My record collection
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Wow, that's pretty impressive!
I sold all my records and CDs sadly. Well nearly all. It's a shame, but it was a tough time financially.
Do you play an instrument? I play piano and I love playing Floyd songs, they do so much with so little sometimes. it really is great song writing.
I often play Nobody Home when I need empowering. Or Gunner's Dream.
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I play trumpet, sax, and guitar. My friends and I get together sometimes and play songs from Floyd. I do the same thing with Goodbye Blue Sky on acoustic, I also know the guitar for Is There Anybody Out There.
My community band played Atom Heart Suite in an amphitheater last year, it was pretty cool becase I got to play trumpet in it. Pink Floyd's music is more than progressive rock it's art, I get the feels everytime I listen to their songs
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Yeah, there is magic in it for sure! The guitar part in Is There Anybody Out There... hearing it is like stepping into a sacred place.
Trumpet huh? Nice! I can't play it at all (dat embouchure doe) but I fell in love as a cub listening to Louis Armstrong.
The sax on Pros and Cons is some of my favourite of all time. I've always preferred tenor but David Sanborn and a steel mouth piece... just wow!
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I absolutely love louis Armstrong, I used to know how to play La Vie En Rose from memory not a while back .
Since I'm a huge Floyd fan a lot of people I know take me for a stoner, it's dumb how people think that.
If Waters were to stay in PF what would the band be like today?
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Oooh, good question. Assuming they didn't all kill each other?
Hmmm, hard to say. I love Final Cut even though it doesn't have Richard Wright and I would never have thought so in advance. But I think Roger's desire to "say something" rather than just make great music would have to find a cause that the other supported. But it would definitely be more dense and highly produced, not just having a jam, seeing where it takes you then adding some extra tracks to the best efforts.
I like both approaches tbh, but Roger's stuff is SO dense it loses the sense of space. I'm sure you know what I mean, I can't think of the quote from Douglas Adams but he summed it up very well.
But I think it would be much more inventive. I think Roger would insist on using more electronic cues, Gilmore would find a clever way to "musicalize" them with his virtuoso musicianship.
Honestly I would just love to hear some Waters vocals scattered over Endless River. That would be gold!
What about you?
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I believe that If waters wouldn't have left albums like Division Bell, Momentary Lapse, and Endless River wouldn't be around.
I like all those albums, I almost believe it was better for him to break away and release classics like Pros and Cons and Amused.
But now there's a tension between them it feels
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Yes I agree, I vaguely mourn for the loss of what they might have achieved together but it would have been at the expense of what they did apart.
At least they buried the hatchet at Live 8 and have (allegedly) put the acrimony behind them with the mellowness of old age.
Hey here's something I only just learned of. How awesome is the Astoria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astoria_(recording_studio))?
I have such boat envy!
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It's pretty freaking sweet. A colorful boat for a colorful person
Post Merge: June 18, 2016, 11:17:07 PM
I saw Roger Waters The Wall live back in 2015
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Haha lol, did you hear of the lawsuit on led zeppelin about Stairway to Heaven?
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Yes, I heard. Just vaguely at least. I assume it is about that Spirit song? I'm sure some BuzzFeed video suggested I compare them some time ago, I wonder why the sudden action?
There's no question the same same first four chords are the same but then it changes and really descending semi-tones is a common basis for a chord progression. And the last 3 chords are different so I would be surprised if they make a case... but not shocked XD
*STOP PRESS*
Wow, intelligent argument will always sway me and I have to say, I think there is more to this than I had thought!
This guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7PvffGvOCc) presents the argument well and now knowing the bands toured together and Jimmy Page has said Taurus' music moved him added to Page's checkered history around plagiarism issues is is damning circumstantial evidence. That the lawyers are suing for $1 plus credit and any future royalty cut going to charity speaks volumes to me even if doesn't technical have a bearing on the case.
It's going to be one to watch for sure!
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jeez, that video makes a point.
My opinion is that the era that Stairway was written in shared many similarities in music, for example like the 50s and 60s with doo wop.
A Lot of the songs shared the same chords
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The fact is they were primarily blues guys and blues guys take each others stuff. It's been that way for ever. So I'm not judgy about it, but because youtube is what it is, I found myself drawn into a discussion. *facepaws* FYI here's what I wrote:
I love Led Zeppelin and especially Stairway. Taurus is a crap song. I think we can all agree on that. It's easy to name dozens of songs with a very similar progression but Taurus is close enough that it sounds like someone trying to play Stairway and getting it wrong. My first thought was, it's either coincidence or an inevitability arising from the limited number of combinations. But to learn that Page toured with Spirit is a bit suspicious. Still I thought, even if he heard it doesn't me he stole it (like George Harrison and My Sweet Lord). But when I found out Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (back paid royalties), Dazed and Confused (settled out of court) and Black Mountain Side (not copyrighted as public domain) have dodgy origins, well there does seem to be a pattern. Page is a rock god and if he took this small section of one song and used it as a small section in another song it shows what a genius can do, in fact I'm glad he did steal it! But he should be a classy guy (like Prince was to Journey with Purple Rain/Faithfully) and just say thanks for the starting point instead of spouting bullshit about being led by supernatural entities. Yes, it's just a small part, yes Stairway is the Greatest song in the world, but if Taurus had never existed and someone released it now you can bet your ass everyone saying "but they're not the same" would be crying plagiarism. Search your feelings, you know it to be true! And if (even just in a small way) it means without Taurus there would have been no Stairway, well Jesus! Doesn't it at least deserve a thank you?
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What's you favorite Floyd song?
Mine would have to be Atom Heart Suite or Vera
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Wow, that's a big call. OK, let me short list and see where that goes...
Brain Damage/Eclipse, Wish You Were Here, Nobody Home, Gunner's Dream, Greatest Gig in the Sky, Goodbye Blue Sky, The Fletcher Memorial Home.
Wow, this is tough. Just leaving of Two Suns, The Trial, Free Four, One of These Days. I feel bad :(
OK, I think I'm gonna have to go with Nobody Home. But it pains me...
I kinda think of The Wall and Final Cut each as one big long song, so I almost feel like I'm choosing between those two albums anyway.
Favourite Album?
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My least favorite album would be meddle
It's just one of those albums that is just there of ya know What I mean
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I like One of These Days, San Tropez and Seamus, but the others don't really do it for me. I know people rave about Echoes but I don't care for it XD
Atom Heart Mother is maybe my least fave. But I love If, so...
OK, here's one. Is there a PF song which you prefer a cover versions of?
For me I love this version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx_SMeyJWco) of When the Tigers Broke Free more than the Movie version/ Final Cut remastered addition version.