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Furry Chat => Furry Freezer => Topic started by: Dante Zairou on November 17, 2015, 05:41:21 AM
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Just thought since ive seen allot of "christian furs" on here lately id like to make a thread for non religious and atheist furs to meet up on and chat
Please dont use this thread to bash the christian fur thread or to bash religion
And as always keep it classy people, no one wants drama or fights so if you must atleast do it in pm
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I don't believe in God.
Not really much to say on the matter...
Kkthxbai
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I'm an atheistic skeptical animist, to put it simply. I know, it sounds stupid.
I'm open to there being more to the world than we can observe with certainty. But I believe if there is one or multiple powers controlling the universe, it's not a conscious being like a god, but a force that just is and does. I believe gods are basically personified natural forces, a concept humans used in hopes to better understand the world around them.
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Meh...*shrugs* i reject the idea of religion as a whole not just christianity, i dont believe in anything that cant be prooven and these socalled "religious texts" 6 of one half a dozen of annother are all just made up crap as far as i can see it
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I don't believe in any religion. I was raised Christian (a vague combination of denominations, not that those really make a difference these days.), but even as a kid I just didn't believe there was a god. I didn't outright reject the concept, I just casually thought of it as a cultural figurative thingamabob. When my mom died when I was 7, a relative helped me put a letter in a balloon for her to read up in heaven. I just saw it as a kind practice, and was curious about where the balloon would actually end up.
I didn't even know atheism had a word, or even that it was a big deal to people, until about middle school. That was a weird awakening.
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Why so much hate?
I mean sure there's a lot of religious based conflict right now, but I don't know if that's reason to hate religion.
Not sure why the inverted commas over religious texts as they're still religious even if built from fiction or fact and sure it is mostly made up, but I wouldn't go calling it crap :P
I'm an Atheist as in I don't believe in a god or that there are any, however I hold great respect for any Theist as more than half the time they're really good people who do accept many scientific views, but simply use a God as a means of guiding themselves though life's challenges.
If there is a problem I have with anyone it's with the Antitheists who constantly argue over religion and just give Atheists a bad rep. This is actually why the majority of Atheist scientists refuse to debate with creationists, because that's not what Atheism is about.
Atheists are removed from religion as is the definition of the word "Atheist" (A- being a prefix of Greek origin meaning "not" e.g. Apolitical = not political) and so simply don't care about it.
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^ This.
It disappoints me that some atheists act just as assholeish as the extreme religious people they say they're against.
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Great.....mods are going to call me an asshole for sharing my view of religion as a whole....great, now I guess i have to lock the thread...if mods cant be nice about it in a Thread for non religious/atheists i cant imagine how other people will act......*curls up in the corner* thanks people :(
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I'm not calling you out as an asshole, I'm just taking my part in sharing my view as an Atheist :?
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Oh .-. Ok i guess
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I'm an atheist, but I believe above all in the scientific method. As I said in your other thread, god is not a question that is answered within the scientific framework, it's a non-falsifiable claim and thus has basically nothing to do with science. I mean I think people get it confused, cause they go like "There's no scientific evidence for god therefore he can't exist", but like, is there any scientific evidence that the game you like is good? Is there any scientific evidence that your friend is actually a nice guy? Is there any scientific evidence that the morals you follow are good morals? No, there isn't, because these claims aren't objectively falsifiable, they're not in the realm of science and so, in short, science isn't interested in whether there is a god or not.
Science is interested in what we can observe, not what we can't, so when people use science as a claim that god does or doesn't exist it's sort of nonsense. Unless you can come up with an experiment that would conclusively show through observation whether or not a god does not exist, or does, then you can't use science to claim the existence of god. It's all opinion really, that's what I believe, it's basically an opinion on how you'd perceive the world. Some people believe in a god cause they were brought up that way, maybe cause it's a nicer view of the world (the idea that we don't have to die) or maybe simply because, to them, it makes more sense. Some people don't believe in a god cause they haven't had that experience, maybe they were brought up atheist or maybe they simply just think it's the way the universe works best. Who is right and wrong isn't science, it's philosophy, and that means we could have this argument for centuries to come and be no where closer to a conclusive answer.
I consider the official terminology for my belief is agnostic atheist, though my boyfriend thinks atheist agnostic is a better term. Either way, the idea is that I do not believe in a god, but that's a choice I make, I do not know, in fact or theory, whether my belief is true. I do not know whether a god exists or not, I simply choose not to believe him because he doesn't fit my model of the universe.
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Atheist, I suppose. These walls of text hurt my puny brain -3-
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But if there is no scientific evidence to proove the theory of an intelligent creator, by deductive [or is it inductive logic] is that not reason enough to dismiss the idea of divine creation as false?
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There's also no scientific evidence to disprove the existence of a God.
But that's why scientists choose not to use God in the scientific method regardless of the aforementioned existence, because it's too easy to say "God did it" and if God doesn't otherwise exist, then what does it matter.
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I'm an agnostic atheist, coming from a scary cultists Christian background (left around the age of seven, thankfully). I don't hate religion per se, but I am very skeptical at anything spiritually, both factually (i.e. is it true) and on motivation (i.e. does the person really believe what he's preaching, or is he just using it to illegitimately gain something?). I know that religion can have some benefits (such as providing hope, a sense of community, some morals, et cetera), but in most cases it will be a maleficent force. Whether its due to the religion itself or due to human abuse is down to a case-by-case examination.
In general, I have disdain for many atheists. This is mainly due to the fact that they erroneously state that they're smarter then they actually are. What mainly happens is that they go watch some edgy "skeptic" and then regurgitate that. They go on about how they're "free thinkers" when they basically copy whatever is popular at the time. They themselves have no idea about philosophy or argument creation. They think they're cool for being atheist, when in reality they look like dorks. Of course, you also have the ones who only do it for the vain reason of it being "cool." Bleh, there's just too many things that get under my skin.
I could write more , but I don't want to make my post any more angry and crappy than it already is.
EDIT: Changes in first and last sentence.
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But if there is no scientific evidence to proove the theory of an intelligent creator, by deductive [or is it inductive logic] is that not reason enough to dismiss the idea of divine creation as false?
No not really. Science is entirely separate from religion, it's a philosophy on life. You dismiss it in a scientific context, sure, you say "Science has found no evidence of a god", that's true, but science has found no evidence for a lot of things, it's found no evidence of any philosophy, it's found no evidence of any moral subjective choice, it's found no evidence of the human experience. For example, science can't prove that consciousness or self-awareness really exists, there is no scientific evidence, what-so-ever, that the people you talk to on a daily basis are conscious. We know that their frontal lobe probably activates, but we don't know if they're self-aware, we could all be zombies simply mimicking a person that is conscious, there is really no scientific reason to believe that people are actually conscious.
So because there is no scientific evidence to suggest people are self aware, do you not believe people are? Do you not believe that the people you talk to are in fact conscious people? Of course you do, but you don't believe that based on scientific principles, you believe that because of philosophical and moral principles. You've made a choice to believe other people in the world are conscious, there's no scientific reason to believe that, but you've made that choice anyway. Whether a god does or does not exist follows the same principle, there is no scientific evidence for or against a god, the question is quite literally outside the realm of science, so whether you believe a god exists or not is a choice you make, not a scientifically backed theory.
PS: It'd be inductive not deductive
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I'm an atheist. But my whole thing is, I don't care. If you believe differently, cool. If not, cool.
My rule? Don't be a complete jerk. I don't care what the heck you believe, we still gotta spend time with each other in this ball of dirt called earth, so let's make it as peaceful as we can.
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I'm similar to Zoey's view I don't believe in a god, you can't convince me of there is one but if you find comfort in religion then that's fine. Being a scout leader I'm often around people of different faiths and I don't mind the odd experience with in religion, but Generally as with anything with me if its rubbed in my face I get annoyed at it.
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I'm an atheistic skeptical animist, to put it simply. I know, it sounds stupid.
I'm open to there being more to the world than we can observe with certainty. But I believe if there is one or multiple powers controlling the universe, it's not a conscious being like a god, but a force that just is and does. I believe gods are basically personified natural forces, a concept humans used in hopes to better understand the world around them.
This I agree with this for the most part
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I'm an atheistic skeptical animist, to put it simply. I know, it sounds stupid.
I'm open to there being more to the world than we can observe with certainty. But I believe if there is one or multiple powers controlling the universe, it's not a conscious being like a god, but a force that just is and does. I believe gods are basically personified natural forces, a concept humans used in hopes to better understand the world around them.
This I agree with this for the most part
So a similar thing to the force?
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I believe more along the lines of an earth spirit kinda thing
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😓 Oright so like Mother Nature? 😅
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I'm agnostic, I used to be Christian however I got a little sceptical when looking at the similarities between Christianity and "ancient myths". It's a little hard to bite down and believe something when it seems to be based on something which is dubbed widely as a "myth".
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Its because it is all myth .-. None of it is true , there is no quantifiable proof any of it Is actually true, there is only word of mouth passed down through the generations, aaand we all know how reliable that is *sarcasm*
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Well, I feel if anything is true, it must be the "myth" that most religion is based off of, ie. Ancient Egyptian religion, so yeah. Praise be to Horus. :P
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i thought they found roman records of some guy called jesus?
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I'm pretty sure that there was some sort of record of a guy name Jesus. I haven't checked in a while, though.
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I believe that a Jesus existed, just not that he had all these magical wizard powers everyone seems to think he had. I believe that Jesus was a regular guy doing good things in the name of acceptance and tolerance. Much like, MLK and all them.
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I follow the beliefs and teaching of chezaism and stuff
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I thoroughly believe the part where the was a man called Jesus, but his tales match up too closely to that of Horus. Google it for yourself, Jesus vs. Horus. GO GO GO! XD
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Well I know Horus deposited his... erm... semen into some of Set's food to establish dominance.
I'm not making that up, that's entirely true within Egyption lore. I don't remember Jesus doing anything like that xD
As for me, I have no idea whether or not jesus actually existed, to me it seems irrelevant. What we do know is someone existed to tell the tale, whether it be Jesus or someone else.
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I'm agnostic,
Mainly because i don't want to be a Militant atheist who bashes religion if given the chance, neither do i want to be a christian.
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You don't need to be a militant atheist to be atheist. O_o
Just like how you don't need to be an extremist if you're religious.
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Mainly because i don't want to be a Militant atheist who bashes religion if given the chance, neither do i want to be a christian.
You don't need to be a militant atheist to be atheist. O_o
Just like how you don't need to be an extremist if you're religious.
This little problem is the reason I'm not very open about my religion: (or to be precise, lack thereof) I'm far from unsure about spirituality, and even admittedly against religion itself. Do I want to express that? No, not really. Do I want to be judged based on my opinion of religion? Definitely not. To put it simply, I don't want to be thought of as an atheist, I just don't believe in spiritual stuff n' things.
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You can be atheist without going around saying you're an atheist. You don't even have to tell anyone and still be atheist because it doesn't even matter really.
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You can be atheist without going around saying you're an atheist.
That's what I do. I'd just prefer it to be a normal thing is all.
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I honestly don't think that he's purposefully trying to stir something up. Some odd years ago when I started to look into atheism and argumentative stuff, I acted like a smug bastard towards religion (though never outwardly). Quite frankly, it's a phase that just about all young atheists go through when starting out (though I have no idea when Dante started). The difference between the youtube atheists and the rest of us is whether you snap out of it or not. Most thankfully do.
Thank you. This is very true.
But let's not continue any drama. Hating on those who believe or disbelieve in a religion is not tolerated here. You can have your beliefs and discuss them, but bragging about hating on people is nothing to be respected.
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Yeah, atheism...
Woo...
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*Shrugs* i dont even consider myself an atheist solely for the fact that if i did it would associate me with a religion and honestly there isnt anything wrong with religion but i dont want anything to do with it i like living by my own rules and phylosophies
Well that and i dont believe in things unless ive got scientific proof or inarguable evidence to back it up
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Technically, I believe I am a scientologist, but I don't really associate with them.