Post by: Peanut B. Rawket on June 17, 2015, 01:38:28 AM
That's freakin' crazy.
What are some of your crazy thoughts?
Post by: Midnight Madness on June 17, 2015, 06:31:48 AM
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 08:58:51 AM
This used to freak me out REALLY bad when i was younger. Too much Carl Sagan and Neil Tyson for Teiko XD :o
...actually i'm kinda freaking out right now.
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on June 17, 2015, 09:00:57 AM
A being in a higher dimension could be watching you and be inside you at the same time, and be able to see your past and future simultaneously. They could be in your room watching you but you will never be able to sense them in any way, (at least in any way that would make sense to you).Interstellar's plot
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:15:56 AM
Still a kickass movie.
Post by: The Past on June 17, 2015, 09:16:20 AM
Post by: Midnight Madness on June 17, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
Imagine, we, every day, share space with an endless number of bodies and existences, and the same goes for any particle, regardless of being larger or smaller... The lives we could have lived are, quite literally, all around us, but yet will never be observed by any but that life that could be. But... I must accept that to entertain this thought would be to extend into infinity, as well, because it's just another part of existence, and existence has no beginning or end.
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:52:44 AM
I dunno if you've seen those multiverse interpretations where universes sprout from universes and they sprout universes and they sprout universes and on and on for infinity. It's interesting to think that we could be a baby universe sprouted from a bigger universe that sprouted from an even bigger one.
What happens when a huge star dies? It creates a black hole. What do we speculate to be on the other end of a black hole? A white hole. (Matter is sucked into the black hole and spat out the white hole). Sounds an AWFUL lot like a Big Bang doesn't it? And as the white hole spits out matter, that mini universe that was just created will grow and grow. HHMMMMMMM....
What if the supermassive black hole in the center of every galaxy is it's own universe?
And imagine that in one of those baby universes, life happens and grows to question it's existence. "How did our universe get here?? It just happened out of nowhere!"
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on June 17, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
its kind of sad but the electrons that orbit the atoms nucleolus in your body are - charged because of this we know that 2 of the same repel each other you can see this with magnets a north facing a north respells so because the electrons are negatively charged they repel each other and you have never touched anything and all you feel is the pressure of of the electrons repelling
Post by: MrRazot on June 17, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
whats outside our universe? nothing? somehting?
if there's somehting outside our universe, what's outside that?
and then what's outside that?
and then what's outside that?
and then what's outside that?
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 08:40:41 PM
Universe
Multiverse
Supermultiverse
Megasupermultiverse
Suppermassivemegasupermultiverse
Etcmultiverse
Honestly though, i speculate that our universe is a multiverse to someone else. As i mentioned earlier, i speculate that each black hole in our universe may be a branching baby universe, an that our Big Bang may have been a white hole from a bigger universe.
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on June 17, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Post by: MrRazot on June 17, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
In this order:Bit which is the final container and what is outside of that.
Universe
Multiverse
Supermultiverse
Megasupermultiverse
Suppermassivemegasupermultiverse
Etcmultiverse
Honestly though, i speculate that our universe is a multiverse to someone else. As i mentioned earlier, i speculate that each black hole in our universe may be a branching baby universe, an that our Big Bang may have been a white hole from a bigger universe.
It's been proven that nothing can make something, but there has to be something to even conceptualise the point there was once nothing.
So can you say "when" something actally happened?
Especially as we're proof something did happen.
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on June 17, 2015, 09:03:46 PM
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:16:51 PM
Perhaps things don't NEED a beginning or an end outside this universe. We just see it as common sense because we don't know anything different.
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 09:18:30 PM
because it is kind of relevant
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
anyone else heard of dark flow :D
because it is kind of relevant
Negative, but it sounds dirty
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 09:24:27 PM
all it is some people looked at open star cluster e.g the Pleiades to figure out which way the majority of matter was moving in the universe and it turns out that the majority of matter is moving to a singul point this is evidence for a multiverse because if a universe was close enough to our the gravitational pull would pull all the galaxy's to it
the scientist that discovered this called the movement dark flow
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on June 17, 2015, 09:28:21 PM
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:31:56 PM
...or could it even be an alien multiverse who's gravity we are feeling? Maybe it is in very close proximity to us?
Or maybe matter isn't entering, but spacetime is expanding. (Not sure if that counts as matter).... Perhaps we have separated from our birthing nultiverse completely and are a floating bubble (or brane or whatever) and are still detecting our host's gravity. But why the expansion? Is it because an object in motion stays in motion? If spacetime started expanding when it was birthed, what would stop it from doing so if there is no medium? Gravity within itself? Then why is it accelerating?
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
before i continue do you know what entropy is
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:37:58 PM
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
because of this it recrudesces the amount of entropy in the universe which goes against the laws of physics
so if one did exist it would be very unstable and only exist for a very short amount of time(max 5 min)
but the funny thing is we think we have observd a white hole which is wierd
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on June 17, 2015, 09:48:10 PM
ok so say i rip a piece of paper in 2 that increases the amount of entropy in the universe this is essentially what a black hole dose but say i got the 2 pieces of paper did the same action that tore the piece of paper in 2 in the first place but did it in reverse and the 2 pieces became 1 again so it is like putting something in a shredder the wrong way around that has previously been shaded and you would get the original out the other side non damagedI don't understand
because of this it recrudesces the amount of entropy in the universe which goes against the laws of physics
so if one did exist it would be very unstable and only exist for a very short amount of time(max 5 min)
but the funny thing is we think we have observd a white hole which is wierd
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 09:52:03 PM
And i'm confused as to what happens to matter in a black hole... I thought matter cannot be destroyed, so why would it have to be "reassembled" in a white hole if it couldn't be destroyed in the first place? My understanding was that it was inly broken down into it's smallest particles (quarks i guess?)
A momentary white hole that blasts matter out seems an awful lot like a Big Bang to me, and seems to fit with the idea that our universe has a host multiverse.
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 09:58:43 PM
Post Merge: June 17, 2015, 10:03:19 PM
the matte isn't destroyed a prose called specification no joke that's the real scientific term for it is carried out it takes the object and makes it into a string of atoms like spaghetti hints the name the white hole takes thees atoms and assembles them again into its original form
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 10:04:11 PM
And i think i understand the white hole thing more XP it does the exact opposite of a black hole. I was imagining earlier that it would spit out the broken up pieces like a garbage disposal.
Post by: Karric on June 17, 2015, 10:06:59 PM
Post Merge: June 17, 2015, 10:10:59 PM
if you have any questions pleas do ask i will answer them tomorrow i have to go to sleep thanks :D
Post by: Teiko on June 17, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
Post by: CrazyCat on June 17, 2015, 10:35:13 PM
lol XD
all it is some people looked at open star cluster e.g the Pleiades to figure out which way the majority of matter was moving in the universe and it turns out that the majority of matter is moving to a singul point this is evidence for a multiverse because if a universe was close enough to our the gravitational pull would pull all the galaxy's to it
the scientist that discovered this called the movement dark flow
Question
*raises paw*
But if there was a universe right next to ours, what guarantees that their laws of physics will be like ours and that they'll have a universal attractive force that acts just like our gravity?
So I guess my question is: "is it possible that there is a multiverse but each universe is entirely isolated from one another due to differing laws of physics?"
im not sure if the void is at the closest point i just know its their and that is one of the theories as to what it is
Post Merge: June 17, 2015, 10:10:59 PM
if you have any questions pleas do ask i will answer them tomorrow i have to go to sleep thanks :D
The void you're talking about kinda reminds me of a Lagrange point. Is it something like that or is it something completely different.
Post by: Peanut B. Rawket on June 18, 2015, 04:01:18 AM
That's also kinda spooky o-o
Which direction is up? or down? OR LEFT? OR RIGHT!? WHERE AM I!? ;~;
...Maybe there really only is, One Direction.
I think i just solved the puzzle, guys...
Post by: Karric on June 18, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
Post by: Teiko on June 18, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
Post by: Karric on June 18, 2015, 07:26:28 PM
but if the 2 universes whir exactly the opposite in every way they could destroy each other each universe could become extremely unstable and end up destroying each other kind of like destructive interference but if they whir the same they could combine kind of like 2 black holes combining or constructive interference
this is just one possibility of what might happen
and the suparvoid is just a large area with no stars or anything that is colder than the rest of the universe its weird
Post Merge: June 18, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
another cool thing if you traveled at the speed of light the CMB would be blue shifted into the visible light range so you would just see blue light traveling at the speed of light
Post by: George on July 07, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
Post by: Erasmuth on July 07, 2015, 09:16:03 PM
The observable universe is roughly 90 * 109 light years across. It's simply massive. All of the galaxies to explore and planets to see, and all the scientific discoveries to be made in this large space... and we'll never be able to go there. :'(
Because of the expansion of the universe vs. the attraction matter feels by the effect of gravity, everything outside of out local group of galaxies is moving away from us at speeds that would require billions if years for us to get there, at light speed. Let alone the speeds we'd actually be able to muster. And if you wanna go FTL travel via a warp drive or something, then you'll have to warp space-time faster than the rate new space-time is coming between you and wherever you want to go. This is something that becomes harder and harder to do the greater the distances you want to travel.
So, while the universe holds many things that are both beautiful and terrifying. It seem's we're doomed to only look, and never touch, the vast majority of it.
Post by: Karric on July 07, 2015, 09:39:03 PM
isn't that cool we worked it out using the drake equation
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on July 07, 2015, 10:15:06 PM
theoretically their are 10 intelligent races of animals including humans in the universe :D10 or more.
isn't that cool we worked it out using the drake equation
Universe is big, ya know?
Post by: Teiko on July 07, 2015, 10:20:11 PM
"2,000 races in the Milky Way, and ~100 intelligent civilizations in the Milky Way". Something like that. Certainley not the entire universe
Post Merge: July 07, 2015, 10:27:18 PM
Okay, so according to an article published in 2011, the estimated intelligent ETs in the Milky Way alone is 50.
Post by: Erasmuth on July 08, 2015, 01:42:23 AM
N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L
http://www.seti.org/drakeequation (http://www.seti.org/drakeequation) is where you can find the meaning for all of these terms.
Now, thanks to the likes of the telescopes Hubble, Kepler, and many others, we have a fair estimate of the first three terms. However, the last four terms are yet to be known, and no amount of mathematical hocus pocus will allow us to solve for those variables. So whenever you see someone saying "According to the Drake Equation." That just means they assumed some of the variables to demonstrate their point, which is fine so long as they don't say their result is the definitive answer.
Post by: Zane the Fox on July 08, 2015, 04:23:58 AM
Post by: The Past on July 08, 2015, 04:28:02 AM
Post by: Zephyr on July 08, 2015, 06:08:22 AM
Post by: George on July 08, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
Imagine how different society would be if there were massive creatures, like dragons or something, that hunted humans and were hard as hell to kill.
Hate to say it but
they'd be kinda dead. I know I normally stick up for humans like "hey they're actually pretty cool", but they're really quick to try and wipe out whatever threatens them. I mean ancient societies would be totally different, but as soon as we managed to make things like fighter jets and missile launchers, it'd be kind of over. It'd be a huge shame to see genocide of a species, but I don't believe that society would show mercy to its killers, human or otherwise. Still an interesting thought, especially when you think back to the Romans and stuff.
My random thought? Why does water taste better after you eat ice cream?
Post by: Karric on July 08, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on July 08, 2015, 06:25:35 PM
Post by: MrRazot on July 08, 2015, 06:30:55 PM
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on July 08, 2015, 06:39:23 PM
Post by: Karric on July 08, 2015, 06:46:54 PM
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on July 08, 2015, 06:58:12 PM
That's what I think >.>
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on July 08, 2015, 07:10:39 PM
How do we know that we're not in a Matrix simulation?
Did you mean simulated reality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality)?
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on July 08, 2015, 07:13:25 PM
*wiggles butt*
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on July 08, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Post by: Trixsie Vixen on July 08, 2015, 07:30:21 PM
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on July 08, 2015, 07:32:22 PM
Post by: Teiko on July 09, 2015, 03:08:10 AM
Post by: Zane the Fox on July 09, 2015, 06:32:39 AM
Total Recall anoybody? B)The original or the remake?
Post by: ✡ on July 09, 2015, 07:35:15 AM
Post by: MrRazot on July 09, 2015, 07:37:53 AM
Post by: Teiko on July 09, 2015, 07:38:40 AM
*swats the nose*
Post by: ✡ on July 09, 2015, 07:39:54 AM
Post by: Zane the Fox on July 09, 2015, 08:18:14 AM
Post by: George on July 09, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Post by: kalan on July 09, 2015, 08:29:49 PM
If you'd done something wrong and were given the choice of whether to contact your parents or the police, it would be difficult if your parents were police.
That's what I think >.>
Damn it trixsie made my mind splode
Post by: Zane the Fox on July 12, 2015, 01:39:24 AM
*Zane cleaning up the mess. Seeing some of the gray matter. Shake his head* That poor poor fool. Couldn't hold his mind in.If you'd done something wrong and were given the choice of whether to contact your parents or the police, it would be difficult if your parents were police.
That's what I think >.>
Damn it trixsie made my mind splode
Post by: Obey138 (Matthew "Fluffy") on July 12, 2015, 01:48:57 AM
simulated reality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality)
Post by: kalan on July 12, 2015, 01:53:26 AM
Post by: Zane the Fox on July 12, 2015, 03:37:04 AM
I tell you guys, we are all just bunch of code.If that the case then what the he** program am I? I don't do anything that would seem like a program would dosimulated reality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality)
Post by: That Nutty friend on July 28, 2015, 12:07:26 PM
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Post by: Trixsie Vixen on August 02, 2015, 03:20:45 PM
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