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Title: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on May 06, 2015, 11:17:14 PM

SOMEONE needed to make a thread on my favorite gaming franchise ever. So I am.

A quick retrospective:

Arena: Boring and repetitive. It has no value outside being a historical landmark.

Daggerfall: Really sinking my teeth into this game currently, and CRAP is it fun.

Morrowind: Da best. This game is the interactive embodiment of freedom. You really CAN do whatever you want. Along with being my favorite Scrolls game, it's also my favorite game, period.

Oblivion: So much fun. Possibly the most aesthetically pleasing game ever created... and it's approaching a decade of existence. Not to mention the top-notch soundtrack, and the endless joy and adventrous spirit it portrays. And the quests are really awesome, too.

Skyrim: Oh, you wanted a game about freedom and exploration in a series about freedom and exploration? Too bad, have some boring linear questing. I hate this game.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: BennyJackdaw on May 07, 2015, 10:27:44 PM

I've been looking for Morrowind for the XBox for a while, but no dice so far.

I disagree with Skyrim being crappy. I didn't notice much difference than Oblivion as far as freedom goes, although I did feel there was a bit less stuff in the game.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on May 07, 2015, 10:35:20 PM

I see a lot of copies for Morrowind on console. Normal is 20, GOTY is 40. FORTY. The console ports aren't as bad as people say they are.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Dax Declan on May 08, 2015, 02:02:01 AM

I started with seeing oblivion on Xplay (that show was the best) then one day I ended up buying it and I up a lot of time into that game. It was so great and it still is. I also enjoy skyrim a lot. But since I'm not to into the whole "hardcore rpg" genre I struggled to get into morriwind. The lack of quest markers was a deal breaker. One day I might try it again but it's not on my list of must plays right now. I don't quite care for arena or dagger fall. They both seem the same to me. But the. Gain I don't have the eye for detail on this topic.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on May 08, 2015, 02:30:10 AM

What's your favorite Oblivion quest?

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Dax Declan on May 08, 2015, 02:51:51 AM

Oh gosh. Probably any of the later mages guild quests.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on June 29, 2015, 12:08:14 PM

Wow not a lot of elder scrolls fans it seems. My top three in order is morrowind, skyrim, and daggerfall.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Cheza on June 29, 2015, 06:09:41 PM

I found TES pretty late, with Skyrim being my first game. Since then I have collected all the main games as well as some other stupid more-or-less official trinkets (I have an amulet of Mara and an Imperial dragon necklace irl, a a T-shirt I got with the legendary edition of Skyrim, and a Khajiit partial fursuit.)


So far I've mostly played Oblivion and Skyrim, with Oblivion (specifically Shivering Isles) being my favorite. I've also tried to get into Morrowind, but now that my laptop has pretty much given up on all games (with a few exceptions) it's probably going to take a while before I can play that properly. So far I've liked what I've seen there tho.


Lately I've also fallen for Elder Scrolls Online. Not the best game out there, but the The Elder Scrolls-setting is enough to keep me happy, especially now that I can't play any of the "real" games anymore and I have an awesome friend to play it with.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on June 29, 2015, 06:23:03 PM

Yeah i tried ESO but for some reason it just didn't feel like a elder scrolls game. I might go back to it now that it's free to play to see if it changed since then but i was pretty disappointed when it came out.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Cheza on June 29, 2015, 06:31:17 PM

It's got the TES-universe and lore, but that's about where the similarities end. It's still entertaining enough at least for me tho.
I'm not really too sure how much it's changed since the beta tho, since I never got back to it after it was released until like a month or so ago.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on June 29, 2015, 06:42:28 PM

Hmmm... well i'll still give it a shot. Hope it even works with my luck!  :'( f'ing broken internet.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: MrRazot on June 29, 2015, 06:56:21 PM

ESO was fun.
I'm ashamed to go back on it though after becoming a guild leader then abandoning the guild by simply not logging on anymore.
The controls feel like Morrowind and the gameplay is even more simplified than Skyrim which is already two very big negatives.


I really like Skyrim though, and with a few mods, it's even better than anything Morrowind could ever have been.
also #LostTheGameBecauseYouKilledSomeoneRandom

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: PLEASE DELETE THIS ACCOUNT on June 29, 2015, 07:46:57 PM

i never got into the first two elder scrolls games, but at that time point-n-click adventures had better stories, better sounds, and better graphics.

But then i got morrowind back in the day and was absolutely amazed and the variety of things both visually and in the RPG style read and point and click. I never did play it much and started to pick it up again, but its just soo poorly coded and full of bugs. Routinely it locks up, stutters, or crashes to desktop with no warning no matter how good your PC is. There are a lot of mods to try and address this but they never really fix the issues.

Oblivion to me had the most "fantasy" type environment from the visuals to the way its laid out, giving a very romanticized middle ages vibe. It felt the most polished of the games to me, but the speech and zooming in on peoples faces was often creepy. I enjoyed it being the last of the typical pick a class and sign RPG styled ES game.

Skyrim is the modders heaven with proper skeleton supports, proper physics, and an amazingly versatile modding scene. There are mods to complete every aspect of the game from exposure to food. Better weapons creation and better combat for the most part. Realistic trajectories for ranged weapons. BUT it has severe draw backs : it used its pretty visual and wow factor to over shadow the fact that most quests are very linear and hollow. IF you play it for more than an hour or so at a time it starts to feel incredibly stale. You can tell it was primarily a console intended game and porting it back to PC was kinda just an afterthought.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: BennyJackdaw on July 01, 2015, 12:21:08 PM

I kind of created this new game in Oblivion called Arena Hardcore Mode. The game starts right before you leave the sewer. Make your character, then go up to fight in the Arena.

Rules
1: Any method of combat is allowed. Magic, archery, strong weapons, summoning, potions, you name it. There are no rules.
2: You can NOT leave the general area of the city. The bandit camp across the lake when you get out of the sewers and the town along the bridge outside the great city are the only exceptions.
3: You are allowed to buy weapons, items and spells inside the city, but nowhere else.
4: Your mission is to go through the entire Arena like a god. Remember, you only get one shot. If you die in the arena, you have to start all over with a new character.
5: If you die at the bandit camp or die trying to fight the law, you have to start all over with a new character.

...That's all I can think of. Going through it three times. My first time was with a brightly colored Wood Elf who used a one-handed weapon and a shield and fought with poisons. ...He could not even beat the first opponent.

My next player was a rather ugly looking Kajiit archer who also dealt in poisons, and prefered to use a bow as her only weapon. She fared a lot better, managing to make it all the way to the female Orc and her glass hammer at the end of Warrior Rank before pushing up daisies.

My current character is a chubby-faced Nord who uses a big warhammer and fire magic. He's at Myrmidon rank right now and so far that warhammer is doing some legit beatdown. I did have one close call though. I fought the Redguard who either uses a mace or a sword, and I kept fiddling with my spells trying to get them to work, and I came REALLY close to dying that fight, but I got lucky and beat him.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Ayro on July 06, 2015, 09:00:09 PM

Quote from: Teanup on May 06, 2015, 11:17:14 PM

Skyrim: Oh, you wanted a game about freedom and exploration in a series about freedom and exploration? Too bad, have some boring linear questing. I hate this game.

Morrowind was my first TES experience back in the day and by the nine is was a fantastic experience. Skyrim also took my fancy and I enjoyed it greatly, prehaps more so with mods, but man were those some uninteresting quests in a sparse world.

Also what happened to levitate potions and scrolls of icarian fight? I miss being on equal ground with cliff racers.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on July 08, 2015, 12:13:45 AM

actually from morrowwind to now there isn't throwing weapons. did everyone forget how to throw! XD

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 21, 2015, 06:22:14 AM

Changed my mind. Skyrim's the best.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: MrRazot on July 21, 2015, 07:54:46 AM

Quote from: Teanup on July 21, 2015, 06:22:14 AM

Changed my mind. Skyrim's the best.

Told you!

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on July 21, 2015, 10:39:02 AM

Well it's all a matter of opinion.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Foxy Corwin on July 21, 2015, 03:14:34 PM

I like the quests and storyline of Oblivion the best. But slur in has the better gameplay hands down.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Eagle God-Heart on July 21, 2015, 03:44:59 PM

cool, i didnt know that this page existed

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 22, 2015, 07:21:38 AM

Daggerfall is incredibly underappreciated, however. It deserves a try, especially because it's free, and probably the best free game ever made.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Eagle God-Heart on July 22, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

i liked daggerfall, personaly i think it was better than arena. yeah i could never get the hang of arena... but then again the copys of the game i got are not that stable.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 22, 2015, 05:36:33 PM

I think Arena's a load of tripe. Daggerfall, though... wow.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Eagle God-Heart on July 22, 2015, 05:38:13 PM

yeah i couldnt get to far in daggerfall. (kept crashing) most of the time i just went around seeing the "sites"

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 22, 2015, 06:41:44 PM

Never had a single crash in that game. How did you install it?

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Eagle God-Heart on July 22, 2015, 06:48:17 PM

i got the elder scrolls anthology, and arena and daggerfall came on discs that had roms on them

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 22, 2015, 07:39:56 PM

So jellyyyy

I plan to get it soon

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Eagle God-Heart on July 22, 2015, 08:12:57 PM

well the anthology was only like $20 or so on amazon, but i got it for christmas sooo.. yeah... but you should pick up a copy

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on July 22, 2015, 11:43:58 PM

I got the anthology too. I got it on a black Friday sale for forty bucks when the original price was a hundred. I don't understand how your copy keeps crashing though mine isn't having a single problem.

Also side note for daggerfall: Boobs. That is all.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Eagle God-Heart on July 22, 2015, 11:46:16 PM

yes boobs. also i think its just that my PC is crap or somthin, i mainly concentrate on oblivion and morrowind.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 23, 2015, 01:02:03 AM

The first thing I did when installing Daggerfall was try to turn the nudity off, if you wish to know my thoughts on that.

Lookie here: http://openmw.org/ (http://openmw.org/)

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on July 23, 2015, 01:19:03 AM

Well when i saw the nudity things i was kinda meh. I was a little surprised though seeing that out of a elder scrolls game considering the first installment was very clean and everything else after it too. It wasn't a turn off or turn on for me. (Yes i meant that.)

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 23, 2015, 05:43:31 AM

Let's talk about not nudity, and bring up these two reviews, which are both extremely hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MW5SxKMrtE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MW5SxKMrtE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyXpbK5aPEo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyXpbK5aPEo)

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 23, 2015, 05:56:56 AM

Not a fan of ESO, since it isn't really an Elder Scrolls game, just an MMO. And it doesn't do enough outside the MMO formula to be enjoyable (SWTOR).

Also, Daggerfall has the best soundtrack in the series. Go look it up. And because I like being controversial, Oblivion is my least favorite soundtrack in the series. oooooooo

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 23, 2015, 06:00:08 AM

Least favorite game (save Arena), least favorite soundtrack.

But being part of the best series ever, being the worst of the bunch is probably still pretty good, and I play Oblivion pretty regularly.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Teanup on July 23, 2015, 06:07:45 AM

No, I'm no hipster.

Soundtracks:

1. Daggerfall
2. Skyrim
3. Morrowind
4. Arena
5. Oblivion

Games:

1. Skyrim
2. Morrowind
3. Daggerfall
4. Oblivion
5. Arena

Also, watch the reviews, they're hilarious. I'd post some of the jokes but they're all too NSFW.

Okay, I found one:

"...you just flail around like a schizophrenic chimpanzee on meth and hope your enemy dies before you do."
-Arena's combat

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Dax Declan on July 28, 2015, 07:00:17 PM

Probably a late response to the daggerfall crash issue but you should download it off the official elderscrolls website. Its free to everyone and actually works that way. Its ran in dosbox though

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Cheza on August 23, 2015, 08:45:12 AM

I've recently turned to Morrowind in a final desperate attemp to get my fix of Elder scrollsy goodness. And to my amazement, it works! *knocks on wood and all that*
It's already starting to become on of my favorites, despite me not having those rose-tinted nostalgia goggles most Morrowind fans seem to have glued on their faces. I was already playing Skyrim and Oblivion without quicktravel and mostly travelling on foot, so it wasn't too much of a shock. And I -love- that there are no tiny arrows pointing me to everything and everyon. It's cruel and unforgiving, exactly how I like my games. Oh, and the soundtrack is lovely too. Morrowind main theme has always been my favorite, and the rest of the thing is pretty good too.


The only things I can complain about are the combat system and lack of voiceovers. Both relatively minor things tho.
The voiceover thing is mostly a convenience-thing since I tend to forget how to English when I'm tired. But then again, if I'm tired I should just go sleep instead.
Many seem to agree the combat is a bit stupid, but I can deal with that too even if it tend to make me feel mildly annoyed at times. But that's part of the charm I guess.


I DO confess I've dolled up the game a little with a texture overhaul mod as well as the better bodies and better heads-mods, but other than that I've left the game as-is.




And another silly yet relevant-ish thing that I decided to do. I dug out screenshots of the characters I('ve) play(ed) as the most in all the games I've played (Skyrim, Oblivion, Online and Morrowind)

Spoilers within a spoiler. Yeah, you can hate me now<3

(http://img03.deviantart.net/90eb/i/2015/234/2/d/first_by_zaryte-d96stvh.jpg)
My first-ever Elder Scrolls-character. A dual-wielding Nord named Cheza. And her husband Vorstag. And Shadowmere.


(http://orig00.deviantart.net/a0cf/f/2015/235/c/6/2012_11_03_00001_by_zaryte-d96t0wu.jpg)


(http://img14.deviantart.net/43f2/i/2015/234/a/2/2013_09_09_00002_by_zaryte-d96stwd.jpg)
My "current" and first "properly-played" (No TIM, TGM, carrying capacity changes or even quicktravel) Skyrim character. A Khajiit healer named P'urr. This screenshot is kinda outdated as she no longer wears this kind of armor, but I can't get new ones thanks to Skyrim no longer working on my computer. Serana is hiding somewhere behind her. You might spot her foot if you look close enough.

(http://orig11.deviantart.net/3f9a/f/2015/235/b/0/2014_09_28_00033_by_zaryte-d96t4z4.jpg)


(http://img04.deviantart.net/1b75/i/2015/235/8/1/2014_09_28_00005_by_zaryte-d96t4zc.jpg)


An unarmored Nord archer named Cheza. Played with similar "no quicktravel"-rules as P'urr. And with those shackle-things for no particular reason.

(http://orig10.deviantart.net/a61d/f/2015/234/9/f/mge_screenshot_006_by_zaryte-d96stv7.png)
A Nord archer named... Cheza! How surprising.

(http://orig00.deviantart.net/db4f/f/2015/234/e/4/eso_by_zaryte-d96stvs.png)
A Nord Templar named Aiska. COMBO BREAKER!

Needless to say, I'm not a too creative person xP

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: BennyJackdaw on August 26, 2015, 05:25:08 PM

Anyone have any tips for the dungeons in Daggerfall? Cause, those dungeons are MASSIVE! WAY bigger than they need to be. And usually it takes me hours to find a target for a mission. One time I got lucky and I found a target mission close to the start of the dungeon, but usually it takes me an arm and a leg, plus 100 game overs to do. Right now I'm on a "The Recompense" type mission and I have to find a ranger in a massive dungeon who worked with and stole this dude's money. I've been slogging through a HUGE dungeon, and I can't find him anywhere. Does the game give ANY clues whatsoever of the whereabouts of your target?

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: Drakeyboy on September 01, 2015, 04:08:46 AM

Nope. Just keep slugging away at it. Also rest and save often. You won't die as much and if you do you won't be too far from where you last saved.

Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls Thread
Post by: BennyJackdaw on September 01, 2015, 01:12:02 PM

I decided to give Arena a whirl too. I'm surprised that, as big as Daggerfall was (about 150MBs) that Arena was only 8MBs. Also, I'm sorry but I really hate both the Kajiit and Argonians in this game. In Arena, there's virtually nothing in their design that tells you they're supposed to be cat-like, and the Argonians look more like ZOMBIES than lizards. ...But that's neither here nor there.

I also dislike how Arena has no quick-travel function like the later games, so you'll pretty much wander aimlessly throughout the entire game. ...However, the combat feels a bit smoother than Daggerfall, and the graphics are more consistent.