Post by: Kamina on November 24, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
Post by: saph the sergal on November 24, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
Post by: SerebroVolk on November 24, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
Post by: Kamina on November 24, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
you have some confused friends.
tell me about it....
Post by: SerebroVolk on November 24, 2014, 08:52:39 PM
Post by: Armalite_ on November 25, 2014, 03:08:57 AM
Your buddy could be trolling so I wouldn't buy into his crap, but being a fur doesn't mean anything to anyone unless you're part of the fandom and expressing it in your own way, being gay included.
Tell your boy he's messing with the wrong crowd. I'll steal his girl too.
Post by: Kamina on November 27, 2014, 05:11:20 AM
There's a number of gay furries out there but that obviously doesn't mean being furry makes you gay -__- I support gay rights and being furry but I don't know how the 2 are intertwined. Everyone has the right to life and equality but doesn't mean it will be enforced or supported, that's where the fight to uphold personal beliefs begins.I told him that and he said to, and I quote, "Bite me Fur Fag". I just bursted out laughing cause all of my pack, is what we like to call it, started to tell him all off!
Your buddy could be trolling so I wouldn't buy into his crap, but being a fur doesn't mean anything to anyone unless you're part of the fandom and expressing it in your own way, being gay included.
Tell your boy he's messing with the wrong crowd. I'll steal his girl too.
Post by: SilverSolstive on November 28, 2014, 12:54:30 AM
I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.
Post by: Kamina on November 28, 2014, 01:12:59 AM
There is nothing wrong with being gay. The only thing is that I'm a homophobe.
I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.
umm what
Post by: SilverSolstive on November 28, 2014, 01:13:44 AM
I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.
Post by: Kaiyo on November 28, 2014, 01:27:55 AM
Post by: Hiyate on November 28, 2014, 03:45:49 AM
I'm bi, so I've run into problems with this subject due to the fact that I was in a catholic elementary school.
Post by: Midnight Madness on November 28, 2014, 04:45:25 AM
As for Gay rights, I just think sexuality should be someone's personal business and nobody else's beyond the attraction or lack thereof. It should only be brought up when appropriate, not celebrated, nor degraded. It should just be. Everyone has a right to happiness, and something so benign as what people you feel attraction to or not should not be a deciding factor on how anybody, including political or legal bodies, might treat you.
That being said, of course I believe that people of differing sexual orientations and the like should have fair and equal rights and treatment. It's just a different feeling. Like how I don't like pink and yellow, does that make me anything less? No. I just don't feel the same way about pink and yellow as someone else does, but I love blue so goddamn much.
Also, there is such a thing as being legitimately unsettled by homosexuals but not actually against them. And It is called homophobia, but the term has just been used differently as of late for the sake of simplicity, since it's such a rampant problem and it does seem like some of those people are scared of harmless things. Just so people don't get the wrong idea of Silver down there.
Post by: Fenox Helkiin on November 29, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
(I'm pansexual)
Post by: Armalite_ on November 29, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
Im scared of gay people but I have nothing against them. NOTHING
I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.
What's scary about gay people?
Post by: SilverSolstive on November 29, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.
Post by: SerebroVolk on November 29, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
so Silver whatcha doing later? ;D
Post by: Fenris on November 29, 2014, 07:15:49 PM
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Post by: saph the sergal on November 29, 2014, 07:21:14 PM
Wow.. A fur/persons sexual orientation has nothing to do with their life style or personal choices, im a wolf furry & im straight, yes i have best friends who are otherwise inclined but i fully support them. Anyone who has that kind of attitude should just slink into a corner and stay there!
what fernris said is true and i fully agree
Post by: Fenris on November 29, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
Post by: anoni on November 30, 2014, 04:28:00 AM
I support gay rights obviously
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on November 30, 2014, 04:46:01 AM
Post by: anoni on November 30, 2014, 09:01:01 AM
Post by: The Otter Is Cute on December 01, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
Post by: Maine on December 05, 2014, 03:23:57 AM
Post by: Nrein on December 05, 2014, 03:57:49 AM
*cough cough* Gay rights, more like human rights *cough cough*
Shhhh, don't cough that too loudly! Society isn't ready for it yet :C
Post by: WolfRabbit on December 05, 2014, 07:04:38 AM
Post by: Midnight Madness on December 05, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
*cough cough* Gay rights, more like human rights *cough cough*Shhhh, don't cough that too loudly! Society isn't ready for it yet :C
Well, Nic, all you or I have to do is say it with a little Swagger and we have a victory, don't we? Get all those who aren't friendly enough to it to just knock themselves out amid the confusion?
I'm sorry, that pun is way too obvious to be funny, I have thus failed...
ANYWAY
I do belive in gay rights and I also don't understand why people are against it. There are many lifestyles, furry lifestyles, straight lifestyles, bisexual lifestyles, ect. There all just a way of living that are each special in different ways. There shouldn't be anything against any of them but there is.
It's because prejudice is natural, even if completely ridiculous in an age of well established sciences and social structures. But I guess when there are people who think setting their hair on fire for kicks will end well, any form of ignorance is sure to propagate.
Damn, I guess Nic is right. We'll just be labelled "deranged leftists" for trying to impose giving all people the same rights. Funny, I swore we all were told to "treat other people how you want to be treated" at a young age, among other variations (including "Love thy neighbor"). Guess those are horrible "leftist" teachings, as well.
Guess the ignorance and/or hypocrisy just flies over the heads of people, religious or otherwise, who oppose these rights.
Post by: Aouzy on December 05, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
Post by: Kamina on December 08, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
After being in a same-sex relationship, I can say there is nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual. I can understand if someone is not used to seeing same-sex couples. But it's not bad at all.
True True... i recently changed my sexuality to bi sexual and ive been getting a lot of beef... its glad to know there are people who dont care what you are! XP [size=78%] [/size]
Post by: drakewithout on December 08, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
Post by: BakaFawkes on December 10, 2014, 05:44:21 AM
If it was my decision, a "swing vote" if you will... I would say, "go ahead and marry the family dog if you want, but that's your decision alone and whatever there is to follow."
Post by: anoni on December 10, 2014, 10:33:34 AM
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on December 10, 2014, 10:39:48 AM
Post by: Hycanith on December 11, 2014, 03:10:56 AM
It doesn't really matter whether it's sinful really, lots of things are sinful. Working on a Sunday is sinful (Exodus 35:2), Wearing clothes of more than two types of thread is sinful (Leviticus 19:19), it's a holy commandment not to take the Lords name in vain, so if you've ever said "god dammit" that's sinful too. It's very difficult not to be sinful.
Don't forget that it is also sinful to trim your beard (Leviticus 19:27) and sell land permanently (Leviticus 25:23).
The sins of others does not give one a reason to treat them poorly. If I were to be the devil's advocate here and say that being homosexual is a sin, there is still no justification in committing hate crimes and spewing profanities in the direction of homosexual people I meet.
I do not believe that homosexuality is a sin, nor do I believe that wearing clothing of two different kinds of threads or selling a house is a sin! People need to remember that the bible was written with the best knowledge of the time, and depicted relevant practices to the time it was written in. Have we not advanced since then?
The seclusion of homosexuals in laws or rules simply fuels hatred. Is wrath not a deadly sin? Don't you think that saying "gay is ok" and pushing gay equality through media and other means would persuade people to drop the anti-gay mentality, and stop worse sins such as hate crimes and violence? Anti-gay laws don't exist because the bible says it is a "sin". They exist because people hate homosexuality. When is it okay to hate another human?
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. (John 4:20)
Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. (John 2:9)
Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses. (Proverbs 10:12)
Post by: kalan on December 11, 2014, 04:37:52 AM
As far as gay rights go why do we have to have gay rights and black rights and womens rights, why cant we just have human rights
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on December 11, 2014, 07:11:48 AM
Post by: BakaFawkes on December 11, 2014, 07:12:36 AM
(Seriously now? Is it even possible to be homophobic and part of the furry fandom?)
I'm not a Biblical historian, nor am I a pastor or a missionary, I just know what I've been told, and that means I don't see anyone different from one another because we're all humans in the same boat (Earth) and both religious and nonreligious people need to see this. There are gay Christians and straight atheists, yet people love to draw a line at the vice-versa.
Post by: anoni on December 11, 2014, 08:13:36 AM
Okay, just trying to reinforce the idea here, Leviticus as well as most of the insane rules that don't have any realistic application in modern times, are part of the defunct Old Testament anyways. People who use the Old Testament aren't even really following the faith accurately.
Absolutely, but the gay rights thing also comes from Leviticus
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)
So if you're willing to believe in that part of the bible, then you should be willing to believe the rest from Leviticus
Post by: MrRazot on December 11, 2014, 08:34:35 AM
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on December 11, 2014, 02:38:54 PM