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Title: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Kamina on November 24, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
So recently i got into a huge fight with some of my friends and they said if your a furry your gay. I told him i do believe in gay rights. And some of my fur friends do to. So that got me thinking. Im not gay, but who supports gay rights? I strongly support it and there is nothing wrong with being gay. What about you guys? :? 
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: saph the sergal on November 24, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
being furry makes someone gay i have to say a huge WTF there it doesn't and as for my opinion on gay rights its your choice no one can tell you to be gay bi straight its a personal prefrence
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: SerebroVolk on November 24, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
you have some confused friends.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Kamina on November 24, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
you have some confused friends.


tell me about it....
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: SerebroVolk on November 24, 2014, 08:52:39 PM
I always felt the furry community was very supportive of homosexuals and their rights. since furries are sometimes looked down upon or ousted for being who we are like some homosexuals are. we all just want to be happy have fun and get along.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Armalite_ on November 25, 2014, 03:08:57 AM
There's a number of gay furries out there but that obviously doesn't mean being furry makes you gay -__- I support gay rights and being furry but I don't know how the 2 are intertwined. Everyone has the right to life and equality but doesn't mean it will be enforced or supported, that's where the fight to uphold personal beliefs begins.

Your buddy could be trolling so I wouldn't buy into his crap, but being a fur doesn't mean anything to anyone unless you're part of the fandom and expressing it in your own way, being gay included.

Tell your boy he's messing with the wrong crowd. I'll steal his girl too.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Kamina on November 27, 2014, 05:11:20 AM
There's a number of gay furries out there but that obviously doesn't mean being furry makes you gay -__- I support gay rights and being furry but I don't know how the 2 are intertwined. Everyone has the right to life and equality but doesn't mean it will be enforced or supported, that's where the fight to uphold personal beliefs begins.

Your buddy could be trolling so I wouldn't buy into his crap, but being a fur doesn't mean anything to anyone unless you're part of the fandom and expressing it in your own way, being gay included.

Tell your boy he's messing with the wrong crowd. I'll steal his girl too.
I told him that and he said to, and I quote, "Bite me Fur Fag". I just bursted out laughing cause all of my pack, is what we like to call it, started to tell him all off!
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: SilverSolstive on November 28, 2014, 12:54:30 AM
There is nothing wrong with being gay. The only thing is that I'm  a homophobe.

I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.

Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Kamina on November 28, 2014, 01:12:59 AM
There is nothing wrong with being gay. The only thing is that I'm  a homophobe.

I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.


umm what
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: SilverSolstive on November 28, 2014, 01:13:44 AM
Im scared of gay people but I have nothing against them. NOTHING

I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.

Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Kaiyo on November 28, 2014, 01:27:55 AM
*whimper* they shouldn't "have to" have rights, nor should anyone who doesn't affect others' rights:..
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Hiyate on November 28, 2014, 03:45:49 AM
I just don't understand why some people just don't expect homosexuality as a normal thing now. They, dare I even say we, are still people. The homosexual community still eats breakfast and make the same decisions as everyone else.

I'm bi, so I've run into problems with this subject due to the fact that I was in a catholic elementary school.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Midnight Madness on November 28, 2014, 04:45:25 AM
I'm a living example that not all furries are gay, as are my friends Troi and Chad. I'm straight without a doubt and so are they. So your buddy can call his argument more than a lost cause. =P

As for Gay rights, I just think sexuality should be someone's personal business and nobody else's beyond the attraction or lack thereof. It should only be brought up when appropriate, not celebrated, nor degraded. It should just be. Everyone has a right to happiness, and something so benign as what people you feel attraction to or not should not be a deciding factor on how anybody, including political or legal bodies, might treat you.

That being said, of course I believe that people of differing sexual orientations and the like should have fair and equal rights and treatment. It's just a different feeling. Like how I don't like pink and yellow, does that make me anything less? No. I just don't feel the same way about pink and yellow as someone else does, but I love blue so goddamn much.

Also, there is such a thing as being legitimately unsettled by homosexuals but not actually against them. And It is called homophobia, but the term has just been used differently as of late for the sake of simplicity, since it's such a rampant problem and it does seem like some of those people are scared of harmless things. Just so people don't get the wrong idea of Silver down there.
Title: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Fenox Helkiin on November 29, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
I don't have a problem with gay people or marriage. Then again I am more on the gay side when it comes to what I like... I can't say s**t :/

(I'm pansexual)
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Armalite_ on November 29, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
Im scared of gay people but I have nothing against them. NOTHING

I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.


What's scary about gay people?
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: SilverSolstive on November 29, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
Like if one tried to make a move on me I would be scared.

I'm right behind you, working out the size of your dogtag to put it in a frame.

Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: SerebroVolk on November 29, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
lol is that so?

 so Silver whatcha doing later? ;D
Title: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Fenris on November 29, 2014, 07:15:49 PM
Wow.. A fur/persons sexual orientation has nothing to do with their life style or personal choices, im a wolf furry, im pansexual & yes i have best friends who are otherwise inclined but i fully support them. Anyone who has that kind of attitude should just slink into a corner and stay there!
Title: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Fenris on November 29, 2014, 07:18:19 PM
Love is love no mater the direction it is focused
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Fenris on November 29, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
Deal

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Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: saph the sergal on November 29, 2014, 07:21:14 PM
Wow.. A fur/persons sexual orientation has nothing to do with their life style or personal choices, im a wolf furry & im straight, yes i have best friends who are otherwise inclined but i fully support them. Anyone who has that kind of attitude should just slink into a corner and stay there!


what fernris said is true and i fully agree
Title: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Fenris on November 29, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
Wow.. Just because we are fur does not make us all gay or wierd. Yes there may be some gay,straight,lesbian,bisexual furs but that does not instantly classify us all as one particular label. So what if someone has a different sexual orientation, who the hell are they to question that! I myself am pansexual, go ahead attack me.. However be warned.. I Bite!  ;p
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: anoni on November 30, 2014, 04:28:00 AM
Furs can be of any sexuality, just as any sexuality can be of any fandom, they are independent properties.

I support gay rights obviously
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on November 30, 2014, 04:46:01 AM
I'm just throwing this question out, is there actually a fur that doesn't support gay rights? Would anyone that actually participates in any of these threads, actually say that?
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: anoni on November 30, 2014, 09:01:01 AM
I know of at least one fur on these forums who don't support gay rights for religious reasons, but I dunno if they'd post on this thread xD
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: The Otter Is Cute on December 01, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
Of course gay folk have rights. Did you not know? Even sad folk have them too.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Maine on December 05, 2014, 03:23:57 AM
*cough cough* Gay rights, more like human rights *cough cough*
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Nrein on December 05, 2014, 03:57:49 AM
*cough cough* Gay rights, more like human rights *cough cough*


Shhhh, don't cough that too loudly! Society isn't ready for it yet :C

Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: WolfRabbit on December 05, 2014, 07:04:38 AM
I do belive in gay rights and I also don't understand why people are against it. There are many lifestyles, furry lifestyles, straight lifestyles, bisexual lifestyles, ect. There all just a way of living that are each special in different ways. There shouldn't be anything against any of them but there is.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Midnight Madness on December 05, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
*cough cough* Gay rights, more like human rights *cough cough*
Shhhh, don't cough that too loudly! Society isn't ready for it yet :C

Well, Nic, all you or I have to do is say it with a little Swagger and we have a victory, don't we? Get all those who aren't friendly enough to it to just knock themselves out amid the confusion?

I'm sorry, that pun is way too obvious to be funny, I have thus failed...

ANYWAY
I do belive in gay rights and I also don't understand why people are against it. There are many lifestyles, furry lifestyles, straight lifestyles, bisexual lifestyles, ect. There all just a way of living that are each special in different ways. There shouldn't be anything against any of them but there is.

It's because prejudice is natural, even if completely ridiculous in an age of well established sciences and social structures. But I guess when there are people who think setting their hair on fire for kicks will end well, any form of ignorance is sure to propagate.

Damn, I guess Nic is right. We'll just be labelled "deranged leftists" for trying to impose giving all people the same rights. Funny, I swore we all were told to "treat other people how you want to be treated" at a young age, among other variations (including "Love thy neighbor"). Guess those are horrible "leftist" teachings, as well.

Guess the ignorance and/or hypocrisy just flies over the heads of people, religious or otherwise, who oppose these rights.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Aouzy on December 05, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
After being in a same-sex relationship, I can say there is nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual. I can understand if someone is not used to seeing same-sex couples. But it's not bad at all.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Kamina on December 08, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
After being in a same-sex relationship, I can say there is nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual. I can understand if someone is not used to seeing same-sex couples. But it's not bad at all.


True True... i recently changed my sexuality to bi sexual and ive been getting a lot of beef... its glad to know there are people who dont care what you are! XP [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: drakewithout on December 08, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
I really just wish gay rights would be pushed for more in the south of the united-states . I really would like to get married some day. T_T
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: BakaFawkes on December 10, 2014, 05:44:21 AM
I'm a straight Christian from the south (you wouldn't be able to tell though, I have no accent, and my family is international). I think that the whole gay rights argument has been blown way out of proportion and has become more of a social statement than an actual movement. Lots of extreme Christians don't want gay people to marry, because it is a sin. Lots of  Honestly, I believe that you should be able to make that choice yourself, but it is still sinful. The unhealthily flamboyant gay "other F-word"s as some people would put it, seem to only add fuel to the fire around where I am. It's an unhealthy downward trend I only compare to that of "normal" people and furries.

If it was my decision, a "swing vote" if you will... I would say, "go ahead and marry the family dog if you want, but that's your decision alone and whatever there is to follow."
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: anoni on December 10, 2014, 10:33:34 AM
It doesn't really matter whether it's sinful really, lots of things are sinful. Working on a Sunday is sinful (Exodus 35:2), Wearing clothes of more than two types of thread is sinful (Leviticus 19:19), it's a holy commandment not to take the Lords name in vain, so if you've ever said "god dammit" that's sinful too. It's very difficult not to be sinful.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on December 10, 2014, 10:39:48 AM
As I've said previously in Random Thread and some various other threads, the Old Testament can by principle of Christian logic, be thrown out of any and all equations because Christians commonly believe that the Sea Scrolls discovered in 1947 "prove" that the Bible is true. However, in doing so, the apocryphal chapters of the old testament have NOT been considered due to "canonical issues" thus, we will never know which old testament can be true. The one that "makes sense" is not a good enough reason, because possibly there's a canonically matched altered new testament that goes with the apocryphal old testament. By the doctrine introduced by Jesus, the old testament was discarded permanently and nobody is supposed to follow it following faiths outside of Judaism anyways.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: Hycanith on December 11, 2014, 03:10:56 AM
It doesn't really matter whether it's sinful really, lots of things are sinful. Working on a Sunday is sinful (Exodus 35:2), Wearing clothes of more than two types of thread is sinful (Leviticus 19:19), it's a holy commandment not to take the Lords name in vain, so if you've ever said "god dammit" that's sinful too. It's very difficult not to be sinful.

Don't forget that it is also sinful to trim your beard (Leviticus 19:27) and sell land permanently (Leviticus 25:23).

The sins of others does not give one a reason to treat them poorly. If I were to be the devil's advocate here and say that being homosexual is a sin, there is still no justification in committing hate crimes and spewing profanities in the direction of homosexual people I meet.

I do not believe that homosexuality is a sin, nor do I believe that wearing clothing of two different kinds of threads or selling a house is a sin! People need to remember that the bible was written with the best knowledge of the time, and depicted relevant practices to the time it was written in. Have we not advanced since then?

The seclusion of homosexuals in laws or rules simply fuels hatred. Is wrath not a deadly sin? Don't you think that saying "gay is ok" and pushing gay equality through media and other means would persuade people to drop the anti-gay mentality, and stop worse sins such as hate crimes and violence? Anti-gay laws don't exist because the bible says it is a "sin". They exist because people hate homosexuality. When is it okay to hate another human?


If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. (John 4:20)

Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. 
(John 2:9)

Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.
    (Proverbs 10:12)
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: kalan on December 11, 2014, 04:37:52 AM
To judge gay people because its a sin is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. I'm no expert on the bible so i cant qoute the specific verses but i do know it says let he who is without sin cast the first stone, well i guess i cant cast the first stone. I also know it say all have sinned and fallin short of the glory of god, and wiegh not one sin against another. Now im just a simple country wolf but it seems to me that what its trying to tell us is none of us are perfect. So when i hear someone jump up on there christian soap box and start preaching on how being gay is a sin i have to fight the urge to knock them off said soap box.

As far as gay rights go why do we have to have gay rights and black rights and womens rights, why cant we just have human rights

Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on December 11, 2014, 07:11:48 AM
Okay, just trying to reinforce the idea here, Leviticus as well as most of the insane rules that don't have any realistic application in modern times, are part of the defunct Old Testament anyways. People who use the Old Testament aren't even really following the faith accurately.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: BakaFawkes on December 11, 2014, 07:12:36 AM
The thing everyone seems to get wrong (including other Christians) is that we aren't the ones to judge. I don't look at anyone with any type of bias. Christians love to call out people on what they do wrong and act like they're superheroes even though they're becoming the actual problem.


(Seriously now? Is it even possible to be homophobic and part of the furry fandom?)


I'm not a Biblical historian, nor am I a pastor or a missionary, I just know what I've been told, and that means I don't see anyone different from one another because we're all humans in the same boat (Earth) and both religious and nonreligious people need to see this. There are gay Christians and straight atheists, yet people love to draw a line at the vice-versa.
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: anoni on December 11, 2014, 08:13:36 AM
Okay, just trying to reinforce the idea here, Leviticus as well as most of the insane rules that don't have any realistic application in modern times, are part of the defunct Old Testament anyways. People who use the Old Testament aren't even really following the faith accurately.

Absolutely, but the gay rights thing also comes from Leviticus

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)


So if you're willing to believe in that part of the bible, then you should be willing to believe the rest from Leviticus
Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: MrRazot on December 11, 2014, 08:34:35 AM
Looks like we're all going to have to burn all our cotton/polyester clothing :D

Title: Re: Gay Rights. Your Opinion
Post by: White Wolf Guardian on December 11, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
I'm trying to say that because of the "Dead Sea Scrolls" the altered story apocryphal chapters make it impossible to follow the old testament at all because there is no way anyone can know which version is the real version. No secondary thought required, those who use the old testament are not protestant or catholic, in fact that would be pagan.