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Furry Chat => General => Topic started by: Philosophunculist on January 21, 2014, 07:18:15 PM
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I was wondering how many people consider furriness as not only a hobby but part of their sexuality. I am aware that a lot of furs (not sure which is the majority) keep the two things completely separate but what I hate is when some of them seem to treat the people who don't as shameful or weird. I understand that you wouldn't want non furs to see being a fur as purely a sexual fetish, that would be terrible, but hating people because they are sexually furry is just as bad as hating somebody because they are gay. Another problem is when it is compared to bestiality <Removed>. Of course this isn't the main thing that being a furry is to me, I love anthropic art and want to go to cons and get a fur suit and do all the things that a furry can!
Please leave a comment below stating which you are, I sincerely hope I'm not the only one :$ .
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Well, not to go into too much detail, for me furriness has been about unlocking parts of me that needed a reboot. Writing and drawing but definitely sexuality is one of those aspects.
So yes, I don't see them as synonymous but they are definitely intertwined so that my furriness helps me access my sexuality and my sexuality helps me access my furriness.
As you said I wouldn't assume my situation to represent anyone else etc.
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Pancreas in the universe With a force proportional
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And inversely proportional
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I'm sorry I had to do that. XP (if your confused look at Trixie Vixens signature)
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I wouldn't say my... furriness have got much to do with my sexuality,<REMOVED>
I see nothing wrong with the furries who do things like that tho, as long as they're taking responsibility and won't ruin the fun for the rest of us by rubbing their SPH's all over our faces... (I've been told that some places are considering to actually list "furry" as a fetish and fursuits as fetish items, and that'd mean no more fursuiting in public + more negative light for the fandom)
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I'll keep it shot and simwple.
Ikeep it seperate.
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It's a huge part of it. Especially dem sergal ones... @.@
Hopefully there's no sergals here to creep out. >.>
Sorry nature, but this draggie can't be restricted to his own species.
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I totally agree ... I don't separate it form each other :P They go together for me :D
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They do definitely go together for me in some instances, but not entirely. There are aspects about the fandom that I love and I take part/want to take part in that have nothing sexual about them, and then admittedly I have an array of sexual quirks that can be called "furry." <REMOVED>
On a side note about fursuits being designated as fetish objects, I find the entire idea of banning a "fetish object" defined by any legal definition to be absurd. Fetishes and paraphilia are usually developed subconsciously at a young age and there are a virtually infinite number of objects and situations that can take on a sexual meaning for someone. Just look at the people who are most aroused when falling down stairs, or while shivering while watching others be cold, or people who are extremely attracted to bees, or even common foot fetishists! I know, we should all ban naked feet in public! >.>
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Yeah, I could never consider my "furriness" to be a part of my "sexuality. Be I in a bed with a fur or not, at the end of the day, it wouldn't be because of that.
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I'd say for me they are somewhat intertwined.<Removed>
Another interesting thing is that I am not attracted to males what so ever in person (except maybe once in a great while), however when it comes to the fandom I'm basically bi.
As a furry I am a lot different than as a person.
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Personally I think we over think furries and sexuality to the point where we are obsessed with it, enjoying it or trying to dispel it. I think the thing to do here is to just take a breath and look what some of the other fan fictions are doing and try to follow in their footsteps. I will admit though, on non furry sites where it still sometimes gets posted you always see adult stuff and rarely anything else and that does need to be fixed.
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I'm so sorry guyz, I got a bunch of you to post inappropriate stuff and you probably got a warning level for it :(
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Eh, it's not the first time you've messed up in way, so we're used to it by now. XD
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I'm so sorry guyz, I got a bunch of you to post inappropriate stuff and you probably got a warning level for it :(
I wouldn't blame yourself, the rules are very specific about stuff like that, so everyone should know what they can and can't post.
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For me it's kind of connected a lot of the guys I like are furries so it's kind of connected
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There is some, but I love the art in general but it has a little bit of a foot in the door sexually. I just wish there was a little porn anthro and a little more clean stuff
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Sexuality is a part of you that can be influenced by many things. Being a furry is no different. Some people will judge and hate on it, but that is only because people are grossed out by things that turn others on that don't make them tingle at all, thus it is deemed disgusting. People are uptight in their sexuality.
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Generally, I've always thought they were separate things, my furriness and my sexuality.
To be fair, though, I don't think I ever would've considered that I'm bi if I hadn't joined the fandom.
But yeah, I don't mind if people link the two. Whatever people like is their own business, and it doesn't affect me.
Judging is just a natural part of being anything different, really. If you like an old TV show, if you listen to jazz or classical music, if you're gay... If you're that into something (excluding sexuality, which isn't a choice), then you should be prepared to be judged.
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Just throwing this out there: straight male furries, they seem a rare breed. What's up with that?
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I made a poll last year or the year before and there were as many Gay furries as were Straight.
May have changed a bit since then, but I generally consider myself as Straight.
What does Furriness have to do with Sexuality?
Arguably nothing.
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Well, that would be interesting to have a look at. Taken at face value the number of people identifying at LGBT in the population is around 10% +/- 5%, so even a 50/50 split is highly significant. Also depending on the question wording fewer people identify as homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual than report having sexual experiences or attraction to a person of the same sex.
If the sexual orientation distribution within the furry community is significantly different than the broader community then that itself answers the question "what does furriness have to do with sexuality".
A sexual aspect might not be necessary to furriness, but I think making an argument that they have nothing to do with each other would be a big ask.
Orientation aside, I've lost count of the answers to How did you become/realise you were furry that basically amount to I was looking at pr0n and discovered yiff on Deviantart XD
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I do have to agree with you on this one, Trixsie. That's how I got my first share of furriness as well.
Only later I realised what an amazing community was behind all of the things I was looking, and that this way of projecting furries was just A way to show your love for the concept. The Furry Forum are something else entirely.
Although I must confess I did look both on Deviantart and other websites that shall be left unnamed for enjoyment, it kinda lost my attention and interest as soon as I came to this place! Now, I'm a furry in heart and soul (without any of those ‘strings’ attached)!
Anthropomorphic forever!!! B)
So, yeah, I do believe that there are certain connections between furries and sexuality, but not to the extent as some might believe. And those connections will most likely only be found after doing some massive research into the matter…
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Well to me sexuality is something that binds together with most of the fandoms out there, look at Furries, search it up on google and you'll immediatly see s3xual related content and if we're talking about anime then it's gonna lead to h3ntai one way or another XD.
So what I'm saying is you'll always het in contact with it one way or another.
Personally it does involve in my sexuality but depends on what I'm in the mood for :D
Also about that stuff about there being a lot of gay furries, that's true but I don't mind there all part of a great community and I myself am straight. :)
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It's something else for everyone, the whole "Furries are bestiality weirdos" trend however came from the media and not being educated enough.
CSI achieved some major hatred towards furries and I recently saw an episode of "Psych" in which the guy handling the morgue (An absolute creep) was "of course" also a furry.
Also, curries are in the minority so it's easy to bad mouth them without knowing a single bit about them.
In the end, furries are furries and some of them like yiff while others don't, nonetheless they both love the same fandom for perhaps different reasons but in the end the same intentions, having fun.
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My furriness and sexuality are inteetwined. Sometime my fur gets all caught up in sexuality and takes me forever to get it out... then it's all matted.
Wait... what?
Right. I can't say gay or straight because some will see me as male and some see me as female (MtF). I identifty as a female, but I don't force people to decide how to view me... of course, how could you anyway? But on the otherhand it doesn't matter, I'm pansexual.
I suppose it has helped me understand myself a bit. Made me more open a bit and look at things from another perspective. I seems like most furries tend to express themselves more freely. To thine own self be true.
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I saw some furries not giving artists attention because they didn't draw yiffy stuff. At first I was outraged but, come to think of it, some people choose to see a movie just because it features some hot dude or girl. :/
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It does to be honest. Not sure if that's good or bad...
But its not really like porn related. I do like some yiff I guess...but Its more about being able to be honest without being mocked lol to people who can Identify.
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To me, in my honest opinion, I think there are people who link the two AND people who don't. like the guy above me said, it really isn't about the sexuality, it's about being open with one another.
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I, like many others, found this fandom through the sexual part of it. I do find the NSFW stuff attractive, but I generally go for the more "normal" stuff when I seek such. But I mostly look at both yiff and the regular furry art as art, the NSFW stuff is art too, a means of making sexual fantasies come to life. Still, media has made it a filthy thing, and it's a shame that people can't like what they want without being "weirdos"
And banning furry stuff in public since it's fetish items, that's just plain dumb. Then they should also ban high heels, and bare feet.
And the reason foot fetish is so common is since in our pleasure centre in our brain feet and genitals are right next to eachothers and it's common that they get linked together. Some experience orgasms in their feet after damage to their brain.
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While my furry interest may/may not be sexual, everyone should notice that unlike the majority of the population, a significant portion of furries are asexual/bisexual/gay/etc... so while it may not be a fetsih for all or even many at all, you have to admit that this and sexuality are definitely related.
Not like saying that this is just a gigantic fetish makes the general opinion of us any worse.
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Actually, Aperson, there's a poll going on here, and the straight/gay/bi ratio is pretty even. It was completely equal for a while!
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Actually, Aperson, there's a poll going on here, and the straight/gay/bi ratio is pretty even. It was completely equal for a while!
I mean that, combined, they outnumber the votes for straight.
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Um... while that's true... uh...
Actually, I guess I was wrong. Had some sorta weird train of thought about percentages, I dunno.
You're right.
But then why is there a link...?
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I'm not exactly sure. I'm not an expert on fetishes. The most likely response that I can think of is just that furries are related with transsexuality. Further study into this would be necessary if I were to understand the reason behind such a link.
The fandom hasn't been around for an extremely long time, starting only in the early 1980s. I'm not sure whether it's that people had been members without knowing it previously, or if a sudden change of thought created it, but for something that so many people are passionate about, I think it makes an interesting subject of further study.
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As a researcher, this size positive correlation is the stuff you dream of. The question of how to proceed from here is a tough one.
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I'm also thinking furries are just more honest. :P
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I'm also thinking furries are just more honest. :P
Maybe also we're more willing to try new things. I mean, we like animals this much, how is anything else gonna be any weirder?
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I like art that depicts sexuality in furryness :3
And other times it can be the cozy stuff when someone cuddles or hugs. Its like a two sided coin which i like.
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I fell that people who disconnect the more...sexuality-Themed furry artist from the fanbase aren't being a good furry...in my case people should not hated other peoples likes...
Heres a little scenario i made: Furry1:Hey man im going on devainart to check your art,
Furry 2:Alright...
Furry 1:AUGH!!!....YOU HAVE YIFF?YOU ARE NOT A FURRY YOUR A PERV!!!
Furry 2: D:
Why cant people respect other people's likes?
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As weird as Jake put it, I agree. Why alienate those who like it?
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I personally am not into the sexual side of the fandom but I don't care that others are. I just don't like it when people don't respect my opinion on the matter. I follow the live and let live philosophy. I'll stay in the clean part of the fandom and will even talk to and be friends with yiff fans, I just never get into the adult art or roleplay myself.
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From the outside I really had the idea the two sides go hand in hand. There was this small webcomic (maybe some of you know it) that told sexuality isn't what the furry fandom is about, but plays a clear role in it. That the point of view that's the most logical to me.
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A brilliant quote is this
"There's less sexual content in the fandom than the public thinks, but more than the average furry will admit"
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A brilliant quote is this
"There's less sexual content in the fandom than the public thinks, but more than the average furry will admit"
(http://www.imcharmingyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/truth.gif)
Never looked at it this way
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This isn't really related to sexuality, or the furry fandom at all, but in my time here I've noticed an interesting phenomenon, if a person is repeatedly exposed to a certain idea of concept that they generally have a negative opinion on for a long period of time, they eventually get normalized to it and get to like it. I'm pretty sure it has a name, but I've noticed it with a few things on this forum.
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This isn't really related to sexuality, or the furry fandom at all, but in my time here I've noticed an interesting phenomenon, if a person is repeatedly exposed to a certain idea of concept that they generally have a negative opinion on for a long period of time, they eventually get normalized to it and get to like it. I'm pretty sure it has a name, but I've noticed it with a few things on this forum.
0vercoming predisposed notions?
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This isn't really related to sexuality, or the furry fandom at all, but in my time here I've noticed an interesting phenomenon, if a person is repeatedly exposed to a certain idea of concept that they generally have a negative opinion on for a long period of time, they eventually get normalized to it and get to like it. I'm pretty sure it has a name, but I've noticed it with a few things on this forum.
0vercoming predisposed notions?
Well when I first joined the forums, I thought of the concept of a fursona as quite odd. Now a couple months later I think about the idea as if it was something completely normal.
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About trans. I probably wont mind so much if they are borned like that naturally. But if they have had an operation, then that bothers me a bit. But nothing against people in general.
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About trans. I probably wont mind so much if they are borned like that naturally. But if they have had an operation, then that bothers me a bit. But nothing against people in general.
Uh...I don't think it works like that. Transgender means you're a different gender than you were born; that implies operation, so what you're saying is transgender people bother you. Is that correct?
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About trans. I probably wont mind so much if they are borned like that naturally. But if they have had an operation, then that bothers me a bit. But nothing against people in general.
Uh...I don't think it works like that. Transgender means you're a different gender than you were born; that implies operation, so what you're saying is transgender people bother you. Is that correct?
So if a girl is borned with a penis, is she a girl then just with a penis. Same if a guy is borned with a vagina, is that something else other than transgender. Maybe i confused it a little bit :P
Emm.. like not the people. But i prefer if people are just happy with the gender they are borned with. But its not the worst thing in the world.
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About trans. I probably wont mind so much if they are borned like that naturally. But if they have had an operation, then that bothers me a bit. But nothing against people in general.
Uh...I don't think it works like that. Transgender means you're a different gender than you were born; that implies operation, so what you're saying is transgender people bother you. Is that correct?
So if a girl is borned with a penis, is she a girl then just with a penis and not a transgender.
Emm.. like not the people. But i prefer if people are just happy with the gender they are borned with. But its not the worst thing in the world.
Well that's another topic of discussion, and a completely different thing. With transgender, you're physically a gender but you feel internally as if you're another gender. However that's not the same as transsexuality.
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About trans. I probably wont mind so much if they are borned like that naturally. But if they have had an operation, then that bothers me a bit. But nothing against people in general.
Uh...I don't think it works like that. Transgender means you're a different gender than you were born; that implies operation, so what you're saying is transgender people bother you. Is that correct?
So if a girl is borned with a penis, is she a girl then just with a penis and not a transgender.
Emm.. like not the people. But i prefer if people are just happy with the gender they are borned with. But its not the worst thing in the world.
Well that's another topic of discussion, and a completely different thing. With transgender, you're physically a gender but you feel internally as if you're another gender. However that's not the same as transsexuality.
I see. So transexuality is basically if you want to opperate your original genitals away to something else. While this is different. Sorry for this long debate btw :D
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About trans. I probably wont mind so much if they are borned like that naturally. But if they have had an operation, then that bothers me a bit. But nothing against people in general.
Uh...I don't think it works like that. Transgender means you're a different gender than you were born; that implies operation, so what you're saying is transgender people bother you. Is that correct?
So if a girl is borned with a penis, is she a girl then just with a penis and not a transgender.
Emm.. like not the people. But i prefer if people are just happy with the gender they are borned with. But its not the worst thing in the world.
Well that's another topic of discussion, and a completely different thing. With transgender, you're physically a gender but you feel internally as if you're another gender. However that's not the same as transsexuality.
I see. So transexuality is basically if you want to opperate your original genitals away to something else. While this is different. Sorry for this long debate btw :D
Yep, seems like you didn't know before, which is why I asked.
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I see. Thanks for explaining though. I don't have anything against people if they are like that either way :)
But glad i know the difference now hehe ^^
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Is this thread appropriate here? I've heard people say how they dislike furry and sexuality being brought up together yet there's a thread on here so if anyone's parents check up and see this they'll likely dismiss furry as too sexual. Sexuality is about what you are attracted to, for sex, which is hardly a matter of PG/13. Unless you're referring to romantic orientation, while straight or gay or biromantic. or panromantic or lesbian and trans can refer to sexuality it's not necessarily and can just refer to romantic concerns I think we should bare in mind the age of consent is higher than the board minimum. I'm concerned the presence of this thread could jeopardise the membership of some younger members, it has happened before. Certainly it's a subject condemned the PG areas of cons, and the fandom famous Uncle Kage is renown for his say on this topic. Some folk see the sexuality emphasis in discussions as more as a provocative one because there's little to gain from the discussion which has been known to be done countless times and is just not accepted on well moderated non PG forums, seeing this thread would immediately influence a (rightfully) protective parent. Another issue is the subject's drama and the drama around related subjects, already this thread has had a bit of that.
Just a concern.
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Wow Kozy...you are full of surprises...that litte paragraph is well worded...i salute you
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Is this thread appropriate here? I've heard people say how they dislike furry and sexuality being brought up together yet there's a thread on here so if anyone's parents check up and see this they'll likely dismiss furry as too sexual. Sexuality is about what you are attracted to, for sex, which is hardly a matter of PG/13. Unless you're referring to romantic orientation, while straight or gay or biromantic. or panromantic or lesbian and trans can refer to sexuality it's not necessarily and can just refer to romantic concerns I think we should bare in mind the age of consent is higher than the board minimum. I'm concerned the presence of this thread could jeopardise the membership of some younger members, it has happened before. Certainly it's a subject condemned the PG areas of cons, and the fandom famous Uncle Kage is renown for his say on this topic. Some folk see the sexuality emphasis in discussions as more as a provocative one because there's little to gain from the discussion which has been known to be done countless times and is just not accepted on well moderated non PG forums, seeing this thread would immediately influence a (rightfully) protective parent. Another issue is the subject's drama and the drama around related subjects, already this thread has had a bit of that.
Just a concern.
Honestly, if this were such a big issue, I feel like this thread wouldn't have survived as long as it has. As far as I could ever tell, I've never seen a member ejected from here by their parents because of content that they had seen on here (correct me if I'm wrong, but after three or so years I haven't seen it.)
The thing is, if a parent can't even let their kid, who must be old enough to be on the internet to understand some form of sexuality, partake in this conversation, then, well, the parent shouldn't let the kid on the internet in the first place. Not to mention, the parent would have to be pretty damn persistent to look around to find this particular thread, and then to take from it "Oh no, look at all this sexualness, my kid doesn't need this!" It's not like we're even discussing sex, just sexual attraction/orientation.
I'll be honest, this is looking way too far into it. It would be one thing if we were going full on details here, but it's just civil discussion. I wouldn't even call the "drama" on here, drama. Discussion, debate, etc. And not to mention, anything that has been deemed too explicit, has already been removed.
I would say this is 100% appropriate as a topic of discussion, and even if people "dislike" it, that doesn't mean that everyone should have to suffer and get it removed/moved to an Adult-Only section, where it could honestly become too explicit.
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It's actually common to see "my son/daughter is a furry I caught him on such and such a site and I've stopped them accessing it" a little google search won't go amiss. This is why Kage made his stance. To relate furry to sexuality as this thread does means taking an object and applying sexuality to it, this is fetishism and hardly a PG matter. Sexuality is the orientation of which sexual acts are driven towards, nothing else, that's what the sex in sexuality means it's not rocket science. Why else would it be useful to know besides for sexuality itself? Again there's no indication that this discussion was for romantic orientation, in fact your romantic orientation can differ from your sexual one. What device does it have on a PG board? Ratings exist for many reasons I'm simply stating that there are consequences to this and if furry is so much not about sexuality then why discuss it? It seems the presence of the thread is pushing propaganda that it is acceptable and that's not neutral on either side. It's like those threads on gun forums that ask if you ever had thoughts of shooting at people of certain groups (even though the act of killing was not actually mentioned), my concern is on the same lines. If this is acceptable as a thread then why don't we talk about other legally protected subjects of sexuality besides biological gender, such as species and age. I see as pushing boundaries nonetheless and I don't dislike it, but it does put others at a threat, even one member and effects ever more the image of furry at a greater level to effect others then I think that's enough. Also, parents can't restrict children from Internet access, a child can use school Internet and most do so liability extends past parenting.
I'm just concerned, if those concerns aren't taken to then that's not my job but I can only stress my point so we don't lose any members or be used as a negative example even as a minor increment it can add to a lot and for this a lot of furries just into the lighter side get bullied for people thinking it's no different to the dark side.
I say drama because it was presumed someone was against a certain kind of sexual dimension, and this can spark controversy as I said sexuality is an adult matter and sparks reactions. The ratings after all are there to protect people, to prevent such reactions and any unhealthy mimesis. Though as I'll say again, the real issue is in the presence of the topic and potentially losing members or making people who would be interested in PG forums fear being furry and the peer pressure of having to be sexually interested in furry even though they aren't on a more intrinsic level which is akin to paraphilia which psychologists regard to as insanity and dangerous unless you have a more natural inclination.
Anyway this is on-topic, and condoning the subject becomes neutral in discussion with some anti-element, a balanced discussion/debate. I myself am actually neutral, but both sides deserve recognition if the thread must exist.
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Kozy, you don't need to keep criticizing all the ratings systems. They're the way they are because that what works, if they were all as oppressive as you seem to want, nobody would be able to discuss anything without fear of punishment. People can tell what's ok and what's not without you harassing them for mentioning things you can't show on children's program. I wouldn't have bugged you about it if you only did it where it was relevant, but you've done this on other threads too. :/
Nic said it better than I did. :P
Honestly, if this were such a big issue, I feel like this thread wouldn't have survived as long as it has. As far as I could ever tell, I've never seen a member ejected from here by their parents because of content that they had seen on here (correct me if I'm wrong, but after three or so years I haven't seen it.)
The thing is, if a parent can't even let their kid, who must be old enough to be on the internet to understand some form of sexuality, partake in this conversation, then, well, the parent shouldn't let the kid on the internet in the first place. Not to mention, the parent would have to be pretty damn persistent to look around to find this particular thread, and then to take from it "Oh no, look at all this sexualness, my kid doesn't need this!" It's not like we're even discussing sex, just sexual attraction/orientation.
I'll be honest, this is looking way too far into it. It would be one thing if we were going full on details here, but it's just civil discussion. I wouldn't even call the "drama" on here, drama. Discussion, debate, etc. And not to mention, anything that has been deemed too explicit, has already been removed.
I would say this is 100% appropriate as a topic of discussion, and even if people "dislike" it, that doesn't mean that everyone should have to suffer and get it removed/moved to an Adult-Only section, where it could honestly become too explicit.
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@Billy: Actually soliciting is directly against the board rules and that's nothing to do with this (and I only brought it up once in the other thread in terms of raring and that was from the original say a else was in clarification I was not complaining on any rating system condoning doesn't equal condemning), in that case however it was indirect yet still nonetheless there, the forums have a report button and it is clear that it is encouraged to report and to keep the board as it is intended in guidelines. Don't accuse me of things I don't do. The rating system doesn't matter here, it's the common issue that parents are given a bad view on furry, not everyone's situation or parents are the same either. I didn't intend for this to escalate at all, concerning is not arguing and my thoughts are the result of consensus not visceral demand, as I'll say again, I am neutral on the discussed aspect but am simply concerned with the presence of threads like these. Children shows don't ask a child about adult things, they aren't an interactive medium and online video game references are more akin to the forum medium.
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Honestly this kind of talk is gonna cause more drama than what this thread has seen this far x.x and given the great day I had at my first day of work, I can't be bothered to defend this more than I already have. Open a helpdesk or PM an admin about it ,don't bring the problem into the thread if in the end it shouldn't be a problem in the first place.
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Kozy, the fact the thread remains, has been as active as it has been and for as long as it has been should be an indicator to you that the staff team has deemed the thread appropriate so long as it follows the proper grounds for conversation. Nobody is in here to talk about gettin' in the sack, but rather, if the furry fandom is something that is an active part of their sexuality. It's along the same lines as asking if men or women are a sexual interest of yours.
If you look back at the first post, you can see that a moderator had already seen the subject. We've all been watching the thread to make sure nothing goes too far off into the beyond, and thus far, everyone has proven to us that they are capable of this manner of discussion without completely devolving into some kind of mess. There have been slip ups, there have been problems, as with any thread; this thread, however, is appropriate enough for discussion.
Honestly this kind of talk is gonna cause more drama than what this thread has seen this far x.x and given the great day I had at my first day of work, I can't be bothered to defend this more than I already have. Open a helpdesk or PM an admin about it ,don't bring the problem into the thread if in the end it shouldn't be a problem in the first place.
You should heed Nic's words. Instead of bringing the question to the users, who overall, cannot do a thing but perpetuate the discussion, bring it directly to an administrator or moderator. Either way, we have already discussed the topic subject, deemed it acceptable and have been making sure the thread doesn't go too far.
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This is wandering a bit off topic, but I personally think the idea of protecting kids from sexual content is a rather odd and pointless idea. I believe it is important that kids are exposed to such ideas early on instead of waiting quite late and making something which is otherwise completely regular into a taboo topic which should be protected from under all circumstances.
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That's why I interjected, to stop this before it continues and ends up being what makes the whole thread into a problem.
To respond to the topic, I know that my sexuality and furry culture are a bit of a mingling topic. I am more attracted to women that are furries than those that aren't for a multitude of reasons, mostly because I find women with a near matching mindset to my own most attractive.
My 'sonas are a huge part of who I am, and I love to share them with people. Everyone I interact with frequently knows about my characters, even if vaguely. And those who I consider close friends or those who will understand know them quite well. That being said, with it being so close to my heart as a person, it shares a room with anything pertaining to love. If someone doesn't at least like my 'sonas, it feels like they don't like an aspect of me, which hurts a bit.
I used to be very subdued in my furry identity, but I can say it has grown significantly with time. Though, let me be clear that I hold every distinction between reality and fiction. While it may hurt, considering how many personal references there are in each of my characters, I'm not so weak as to simply give up and cry when someone dislikes them. Simply put, there are tons of hints to my personality and inner thoughts present in my 'sonas, their designs and their overall differentiation in personality. That is why it hurts a tiny bit when I'm told that my characters suck or something of the sort. My characters have personalities very close to mine or how mine would turn out in specific circumstances, but all have distinct traits that link them to me if you pay enough attention. They are my artistic product, my personal representations and a part of my life, and any artist feels pain when something they have poured heart and soul into is mocked, degraded or generally resented, but anybody in a regular state of mind can recover from said events.
I'm pretty sure you all know by now that I am a happy person, and even after somebody outright bashes my interests, the anger subsides and I return to my happy mannerisms. I enjoy my life, and I enjoy my characters. I don't view myself as a dragon, a dinosaur, a fox, a Pokemon, an Alligator cyborg, a shark/dragon/demon seeking to ascend beyond his binds of birth, a horse or anything like that. This guy, Nick (that's me), is a human who has thus created these characters and molded their lives based on his own experiences and feelings, and I consider those creations to be a big part of who I am. It tells people what I want to become, where I want to go, inner fantasies and even things that I've come to admire in time.
I'm not saying I would never date a woman who was not a furry, but that I prefer to have a like-minded individual to consider my heart's devotion. I see nothing wrong with that, and I doubt anybody else would see something wrong with it, either.
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Two members from these forums have already been pulled away due to seeing these kinds of threads on the forums. There's a big thing online among young furries who daren't tell their parents about furry because of the "sexual implication" certainly a lot in this thread say yes to this, and kids follow trends/consensus and a parent would fear that if they investigated. People have been talking about this lots of places but its rejected here? I don't get that.
There's also a subtle difference between paraphilia and sex education, aperson1, one is parallel to normal and unhealthy the other is related to puberty and normal. Statistics show paraphilia in young people is an unhealthy thing and affects their natural sexual orientation and can cause dangerous socially and addict-like hedonistic qualities, paraphilia in general is considered problematic hence it is described as such in the DSM, animal/anthro RP is classed under autozoophilia and there is also plushophilia which includes fursuits. So parents will consider it a risk both socially and mentally. If you don't think it's a risk, then I can only warn the younger members in the event of such a case.
I'm not against furry sexuality, far from it, actually, as revealed to certain members already so don't act like I have some bias here, please. I'm just concerned that innocent members may in future be affected.
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Look, people have left for all sorts of reasons. We've had people rage over captcha, we've had people leave because they said they were bored every five minutes. We've had people hate and leave when we told them not to, we've had people leave because we did our jobs at all. By the end of the day, we can't please everybody. And this thread? It's not some kind of sexuality thread on SoFurry, it's asking you if the fandom is a part of your sexual identity in the same vein as whether or not you like a specific sex. That is appropriate. And on top of that, we all know the fandom has a darker side and hiding it is like trying to cover a blue whale with a baby blanket. Sexuality in itself is a PG-13 subject, the actual content from that side is not; that is why we allow this with heavy discretion.
Once again, an entire staff team has deemed this acceptable for forum standards. Your calling this out in the public side of the forum is causing more problems than anything this thread has brought to our attention since the first little scan through.
And Kozy, nobody has brought up any kind of distinct fetish discussion until you started this unnecessary digression. Seriously, can you not see the folly of all this? I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, because I have already asked you once and I asked it casually.
From this point forward, let it be known that I am demanding this subject be dropped and that this thread remain on the original topic. There will be no more public discussion of the validity of this thread's existence, and lack of compliance with this will result in further action.
If you ever see a topic that you believe is inappropriate for the forums do not make a public debacle out of it. Make use of the proper tools and resources. You may PM a moderator with your concern or make use of the Report to Moderator button. Taking the subject askew in an effort to state that the topic is inappropriate is a rule violation of its own, and therefore, is requested to not be acted on.
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And I think that's the longest reply to a thread I've ever head to read .w.
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Just throwing this out there: straight male furries, they seem a rare breed. What's up with that?
I know.
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Just throwing this out there: straight male furries, they seem a rare breed. What's up with that?
lol trix u just dont look hard XP
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I agree with a lot of the stuff that has been said and probably will be said on this forum. I see the sexuality side of the fandom as interesting and honestly I do see it as every bit a part if the fandom as the conventions. (Which could be a bit more often and wide spread in the uk. Uk furs will probably know what I'm on about)
Don't get me wrong some parts of it are just plain weird and, in my opinion, more then wrong morally. Though having said that I do like the "yiffy stuff" as some refer to it. However whilst I have been doing research on the fandom it does seem that even within the fandom the vast majority disagree with the sexual type stuff.
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However whilst I have been doing research on the fandom it does seem that even within the fandom the vast majority disagree with the sexual type stuff.
0r so they claim. I think the whole thing about saying it isn't related to sexual things might be to protect the fandom from the negative attention; most furries I meet do enjoy that side of it. X3
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However whilst I have been doing research on the fandom it does seem that even within the fandom the vast majority disagree with the sexual type stuff.
0r so they claim. I think the whole thing about saying it isn't related to sexual things might be to protect the fandom from the negative attention; most furries I meet do enjoy that side of it. X3
most do and as for the negitivty side dont get me started on that because i am sick of a facebook page that seems to love that