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Furry Chat => Rants and Advice => Topic started by: Takamei Edevane on December 14, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
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A week ago I was beaten by a gang that used bricks as weapons. Since then I've been hearing that people are out to get me. Stab me even. Only 2 hours ago I was dragged into an ally way and beaten on my way home. They forced me to say sorry again or they would stab me. I'm scared and I don't know what to do. :(
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Have you called the police? You should, if not, tell them about these things. That is all I can tell you at this point... Other than I'm sorry this has to happen to you. I hope you can stay safe.
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Yeah, you should tell the authorities.
There's also got to be a reason that these blokes are after you, what is it?
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As has already been said, call the authorities and give them as much information as you can. If possible, travel with at least one other person at all times. And, if you feel comfortable with it and if it's legal, carry some sort of weapon on you for self defense. I don't mean a firearm, but just a pocket knife or something to scare them with if they threaten you. Maybe that's going a bit too far, as hopefully the police can deal with it before it escalates and I don't condone violence at all, but if you need to defend yourself in the meantime it's what I would do.
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The police are aware of this. But I still don't feel safe. He hasn't been arrested to my knowledge. And travel with one other person? I was with THREE of my friends and they didn't do shit. The just WATCHED :'(
And this isn't two people after me. There are like 20. And I only bumped into 10 or 15 of them. And what happens when they get arrested? Only more of their friends are gonna want to get payback and hate me even more.
I can't feel safe...
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Well, if you just let it fester, it will only get worse. I read your journal, just didn't comment. I understand you won't feel safe, I certainly wouldn't. If you press them (the police) to do something, tell them exactly what some of the people looked like or even offer a vague description, then something will be done soon enough. Tell your parents, your principal, your teachers, tell everyone who can do something about it.
And if those "friends" stood and watched when you got dragged off, I think it's time you ask them about that.
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Well I haven't, but my father has. But the thing is I don't know these people. I've never seen them before, and it was all too blurry to see faces and remember them. I was too busy feeling pain, and being kicked in the head on the ground.
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Regardless. You can't force memories, but try to remember something. The cops will need anything and everything to do something about this. But you still need to tell them you do not feel safe and everything like that. Hold nothing back, because if you do, you may have just let them get away. What I suggest is staying home whenever possible and being driven to school by someone you can trust until the problem is solved.
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alright. but that is IF it gets solved...
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To be honest, people like this will just keep on if you just let them get away with it. If you do nothing, they'll see you as an easy target and keep doing it for as long as your around. Might not want to stab you anymore, but they'll threaten.
And look, just think positive. Hope for the best and do what you can to stay safe. Trust me, soon enough it will be over. Just be patient and wait it out as necessary.
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I hope you're right. and if you aren't... i dont know.. :'(
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Your family will protect you, no matter what. If they love you as much as they say, they will doggedly pursue the resolution to this until you can go out safely again. Somebody will solve it, one way or another.
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omg tht sounds horrible! I hope your okay. As its been said alot already call the athorities if they dont do anything pursue them and make sure they do its their effing job.
also talk to your friends about them just watching you, I stongly disagree with wht they did. If I saw tht happen to one of my friends I would help him out not just watch.
I hope your okay :c
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I received another threat today... I'm keeping a weapon on me now. Even if the world doesn't end tomorrow I'm going to die anyway... well that's how if feels...
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I received another threat today... I'm keeping a weapon on me now. Even if the world doesn't end tomorrow I'm going to die anyway... well that's how if feels...
You're not don't worry. Also, with that weapon, make sure it's not something like a knife or a gun, self defense states that you must use a "reasonable amount of force" as self defense, a knife may be pushing it. Use something like Pepper spray.
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Er where do I get pepper spray from?
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I'm not sure because I dunno what state you are from, you could google it or maybe ask an officer about it and how you want to be able to defend yourself because you don't feel safe :P
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I live in England. I don't even know if I can have one legally. Guess Ill ask Google or a police officer.
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I suggest you ask the police for advice. They are trained to know what to do at all times like these and are used to crime in your area. Tell them you don't feel safe, tell them you need to know how to protect yourself. They might be able to provide a self defence 101? I have no idea. They are probably a safer bet than asking people on an online forum. Being professionals and all.
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Doesn't sound like the old rozzer to not put any welly into their job.
Not to sound old fashioned, but perhaps calling 999?
Mind you the old bill may have more important jobs than to deal with some chavs.
Try them all the same. Weapons are a no no as they can easily turn them against you.
Told your parents?
Best of luck.
you can always try reasoning with them.
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I'm not sure what to do, but I hope your fine and that it gets worked out. :S
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I can understand how bad you feel - it's like bullying, but 10x worse. Agreeing with the other posters, pepperspray is one of your best bets.
But...
Such a large number of people will not be easily repelled by the spray. I'm not an expert, but it sounds like they will overpower you.
It's also understandable why you may face a dilemma about telling your parents. I suggest you still do, but don't alarm them. Can the police maybe send someone out to help you? Maybe monitor you the next time you go out?
Also, make sure that the police UNDERSTANDS the severity of the situation. Tell them everything. Push them to do something. Make your recount of the story as vivid as possible - they must be subconsciously willing to help. Speak to different people in the police department - this increases your chance of success. Stop using the same way or alley when you go out, look around to see if you can spot the offenders, change the time when you go out -- RUN if you can see them coming after you. Get to a public place where the people there can actually do something about it and demoralise the gang that is after you, as the more people have evidence, the better.
Remember: they won't stop until they get that you are NOT an easy prey, and in fact, not a prey at all!
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Thanks guys. My dad is fully aware of the situation and is the one who called the police when I got home. There are better details of what happened in my journal. But yes, I have just found out that pepper spray is illegal in England and I cannot carry any sort of weapon at all. I'm not sure who I am meant to talk to in the police, but I will hopefully talk to somebody soon.
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If you're not talking to the right person, they will refer you to the one you should be talking to. They're not all power abusing bastards. XD
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i think you should carry something with you too aswell. If weapons are illegal like that how about a tazer? how about you carry a sock full of rocks swing it around an wack some of them assholes in the head. Dont take it ok? Dont let them get you. Let them know you will not be f*cked with. I learned that going to other people who are SUPPOSEDLY supposed to help, they never did. Ever. I had to always take matters into my own hands, now nobody F*cks with me ever. Not since 6 years ago.
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If weapons are illegal like that how about a tazer? how about you carry a sock full of rocks swing it around an wack some of them assholes in the head.
I'm fairly certain that if a pepper Spray is illegal, then a Taser won't be allowed - considering it's just a general step up from pepper spray. And a sock full of rocks is no different than carrying around a nightstick or a club, which I don't imagine is legal either.
Let them know you will not be f*cked with. I learned that going to other people who are SUPPOSEDLY supposed to help, they never did. Ever. I had to always take matters into my own hands, now nobody F*cks with me ever. Not since 6 years ago.
If you don't tell anybody, how is anyone ever going to know? He has already told the police, he has already told his family and that's not a mistake. He's got a bunch of thugs after him, he cannot possibly fight off all of them alone. Especially when they're willing to kill him, and he can't do the same in return (as far as I know). What I say is he still has to tell the police, he has to talk to his parents, he has to get this handled and he has to do so without endangering himself. And taking on a gang of thugs, that's going to endanger him significantly.
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Yeah Sytex I agree with you. But my main fear is when they get free I will once again be in danger. Even if they are imprisoned some of their mates may try to get me. Either two things will happen. One: Will make them angrier and more dangerous. Two: They give up and leave me alone. Which is most likely though.
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Well they carry bricks and use it as a weapon. Play dirty is all im saying. Theres really no winning in this situation. And I did tell people when this happened to me. Every effing adult in the school knew but did nothing to help me. So i took things into my own hands and I got in trouble and so what? nobody messes with me anymore, not enough to push me over the edge. You cant play nice with the people who dont play fair. Authorities often dont help unless its too late.
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Yes, I know how that feels, Duke. I was abused by students and teachers alike at my old Junior High - and nobody did anything but my father and Grandparents. I got robbed and those police did nothing because the thief was black, or whatever. I fought back on my own, and that earned me nothing but grief. I got in trouble, I got some people off my back, but others on it.
But, again - he'd be taking on a whole gang, a large group of thugs with knives and other weapons. Fighting back against one person might work well enough, but against a whole group like that? With such intent? He'd be going and getting himself killed/beaten again! That is not what would be advised, that would not help.
This is not a situation without victory. If he stays safe, if he lives happy enough, that is a win. And with this brought to attention, police will be more aware of the problem in his area. I'm sorry Duke, but what worked for you won't work for everyone. Especially not in this situation.
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I didn't think of that. I'm sorry. maybe if I was actually in his shoes feeling his pain I'd know what to do. I was riled up earlier, my bad. Anyways i really hope you the best and ill pray for you Laurence. Your best bet is the authorities but again, in my experience it wont help much if not at all. (Hopefully it is different in England.)
Is there a different rout you can take when you go out? Dont have a precise schedule if they encounter you at the same place everyday. Now that I'm away of the amount of people after you, in a condensed area that will be hard to avoid, but it seems like your best bet if authorities wont get involved. Try to stay around populated areas, make sure there is witnesses (not those couple of 'friends' because I'm pretty sure they are too afraid to speak up and claim they saw anything) Again try to have an unaticipated type of schedule but while being in populated areas. Buses/trolleys or something of the sort. Take those instead of walking.
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Thanks Duke, I will try to do the schedule thing with the buses. Bit too late for the authorities to not get involved though
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well if they are actually doing something about your situation, great! more power to you.
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Don't fight back. I skimmed the thread and saw a couple of people giving this advice: don't do it. These people have numbers and experience on you. It would be pretty much impossible for you to win, even with weapons like pepper spray which you don't have any training with. They will beat you up before you have time to process anything since you're not used to situations like that. It takes a lot of training and getting into real fights in order to gain any sort of competence at fighting. I think your best bet is, if calling the police didn't work, move or take a different route to get to where you're trying to go.
How did this start happening?
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Yeah Ill take your advice on that N Phor. If you read my journal it should answer most of your quetions, and thanks