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Furry Chat => Tech Central => Topic started by: Bayzan on May 25, 2012, 01:57:25 PM
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Just wondering which is better between Mac and PC.
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Mac for multimedia and/or hipsters with lots of money
Pc for gamers and/or everything else
Both have their merits and flaws.
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Oh, thank you. Near future I'm gonna get a PC :P
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One downfall of the Pc -viruses
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Can't you install a anti-virus software?
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Yea you can, just keep it up to date :P
Don't go onto the internet AT ALL unless an anti-virus is installed.
I recommend Avast, because it's free and has boot scans.
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Oh, ok
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If you ask me, I'd tell you PC is overall better.
If you know how to follow some steps and do some hacking you can effectively build a "Hackintosh computer" which is basically running the Mac OS on a PC if you see any benefits in using a Mac over a PC. The benefit of this is that you can run Mac OS without paying a premium (Hackintoshes commonly have better hardware than your average Mac whilst costing less).
PC is also much more customizable and lets you have pretty much any hardware configuration you want.
One downfall of the Pc -viruses
This isn't necessaily true. Whilst there does exists more viruses for PC, there does also exists ones for Macs and there have popped up more and more over the past few years. So I'd recommend antivirus for macs as well.
Then for a final note, a PC =! Windows, you might very well run Linux or Unix on a PC if you want to.
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I have both a Mac and PC. I like both. They are different and both have pros and cons. I don't believe one is ever really "better" than the other, because it just depends on what you need it for.
Along with what's already been said, a lot of software is default made for PCs. Only when it comes to media software (graphics programs, video editing, etc.) does the software selection tend to favor Macs. Valve is pretty much the only game company that makes decent games available for Macs, so if gaming is important to you, a Mac is not the way to do it.
There are options for being able to run both Windows and Mac on the same computer, similar to what Timmy said. So if you're into multimedia and really want the Mac but need the PC for games, there is software out there that allows you to use both.
As for viruses, the Mac is definitely superior. Yes, Mac viruses exist, and you should protect against them, but there is no question about PCs or Macs having more issues with it. I've been using my Mac for three or four years and haven't caught a single bug; with the same kind of use, my PC is always getting stuck with one thing or another. I like not having to stress so much about keeping my computer clean.
I also personally like the fact that my desktop Mac is entirely contained within the monitor. It's certainly less customizable, but I like not having to make space for a tower. It suits my needs.
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If you want to game then you should get a PC as PC's are compatible with DirectX
If you want to use editing and multimedia software than get a Mac
Generally, I would go with PC, In my opinion, they are cheaper, more customizable, more detailed and just generally work better.
Macs are just shinier XD
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Going off what Timmy said, PC's are a lot less proprietary. Even if you buy a pre-built PC, laptop or desktop, you can still customize and upgrade it yourself down the road.
Not to mention, I personally believe PC's are easier to fix, as well. Sure you can get viruses if you aren't safe with how you use it, they can also be easily managed.
Granted, Macs are amazing in areas that PC's may lack in, but those are a pretty few areas.
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Mac beats out PC with video and visual and any sort of audio editing/producing by a clear longshot, and Iff I could, I'd upgrade my studio to Logic pro 9, but for any of the "flashy" things and common everyday use, then PC is better because it's operating system is made specifically for that
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it really depends what you have used so far if you have been using any thing but a mac i would really suggest a pc just plainly because macs seem to have a very alien lay out to people who might have been using a pc or Linux. The rest has all ready been covered above in much better detail than I could ever go into.
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im useing a pc
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Honestly I don't see how come Mac's are said to be so much better for media other than the stock software. Now I haven't tried a Mac, but 3rd party software such as Vegas Pro or Adobe Premier Pro/After Effects tend to run very well for me. Though my PC does sport an i7-2600K CPU and 16GB of RAM..
For my personal use, all media software I've ever used and familiarized myself with exists on the PC as well as the Mac (except for Vegas Pro) and they work just fine on there as well. These software are Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Lightroom, Adobe After Effects and Sony Vegas Pro.
I also believe 3rd party web browsers work better with Windows than with with Mac (especially notable is Firefox). The Adobe Flash plugin is also known to perform way better on Windows than any other platform even if it's performance and usefulness is arguable with HTML5 on the rise and these goodies.
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I have a PC at home and am personally a slave of microsoft (PC, Xbox, Zune, Windows phone..not all on purpose though) The one reason why I didn't go with mac is really because of my funds. At work we use a Mac because it can run a really great program that keeps our stock in check, has all items in the system and has a great connection with the register. Mac is GREAT for professional use. If you're just using it for casual internet, applications, gaming then stick with a PC.
If you're into graphic design, music, video, or in a professional business I agree that the price is worth it and saves a lot of headaches that PC could cause.
So personally? PC
Professionally? Mac
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rinny is absolutely correct in terms of funds my family is fairly wealthy so higher middle class and we would struggle to afford a new mac i also have a brother he is a fairly high rank ict tech i have never seen him use a actual mac for any thing. also this seems to be a very one sided chat. 0.o
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Aw why one sided, sebflynn? :c I think this is all just personal experience.
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every one here seems to be pro pc
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I am a PC. But i have used a MAc Before. As well i have used few linux and Unix systems.
But to keep it on the Mac and PC conversation.
Mac's even though are starting to get more user fiendily are still designed for the power used end of computing. Sure PC can do the same thing even the right parts and the money to get them.
For PC's which are vary.. and i shall stretch vary out. Is a user friendly. PC's are jsut there to give less headach for every one out there. I mean there ppl out there that have not touched a computer and some who really should not XD
Either way i like both rather one better over the other is vary long arugment that should never be started XD
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Now another question. Which one is more affordable?
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It would depend on how much you want to spend, or what you can afford.
I look at it this way.
Mac you can not upgrade the parts. Well you can but the mac was not designed for it. As well does not take up much space.
PC. can take up bit more space, but in the long run you can upgrade it the performance.
Again it would have to depend on your spending budget
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Now another question. Which one is more affordable?
there round about the same now but when they first came im like nope
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Now another question. Which one is more affordable?
If you're talking about brand new - PC. Almost certainly, with only maybe a few exceptions.
Apple does offer refurbished Macs for a fraction of the price that are like-new though, if you'd really like a Mac instead but can't afford the brand-new price.
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To be fair you can build an amazing yet cheap PC these days, that'll do anything you need it to.
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PC is the cheapest and the best. And if you really wanted to and knew how, you could run OS X on a PC outside of a virtual machine (I've managed to get as far as a kernal panic upon boot up but still, it ran).
PC does NOT equal Windows however (as PC stands for Personal Computer).
If you need something that works with everything then go with Windows (but look out for viruses). If you need something that's very stable, does not get viruses, is free, and works very will with what works on it but doesn't work with most of the things you're already used to, go with a Linux distro (Ubuntu is one of the most user friendly ones and is very stable). As for OS X, OS X is really only good for multimedia applications. However, OS X also does get viruses. Not as much as Windows, but it still gets them (as for Linux there are currently no known current viruses, and if there were, a security patch would be put out very quickly (within a week)). The thing about OS X, is that Apple updates all the software for it themselves (well, most of it; such as java) and because of this, security flaws in those programs don't get patched nearly as fast (which means after the flaw is known there's a lot of time for people to make viruses for it, before a patch is out or even being worked on). For example, there was a patch for flash (I think) which was VERY important. Apple never updated it and now thousands of Mac's are part of a botnet due to the delay in patching (not sure if they've patched it yet).
Anyways; you're best going with Windows as it's compatible with everything, but if you're worried about viruses and want a very stable system you should go with Linux. If you're big on multimedia creation you should go with OS X (Windows can do multimedia but OS X is the best at it (or so I've heard)). There aren't many multimedia programs out there for Linux however.
If you get used to the OS X terminal or Linux terminal you can use most of the commands on either system (as they use many of the same commands (or so I've heard)).
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If you have a grand or two to throw away, buy a Mac.
Else, invest in a PC. Mine's got at least twice the power of my Mac and cost half the price.
If I said any more I'd be repeating what everyone else has already said. Mainly, it depends on your needs. It might help us give you the information you need, or suggestions, if you tell us what you need or plan to use the computer for. If it is just for web browsing, chat, etc. then you may want to take a look at some netbooks which are inexpensive and do the job if you don't heavily use a computer. There's no point in buying a $1,000 Facebook machine, is there?
There is nothing wrong with Apple, regardless of what people may say. The one thing to be considered is that their products are expensive due to the amount of detail they put into how it looks rather than its specifications. Ultimately, you're either paying for what you see and not what's inside. If you want to pay for what's inside, buy a PC.
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There is nothing wrong with Apple, regardless of what people may say.
Bit off topic, and not to start a different discussion, but honestly whilst I agree mostly, I do strongly dislike their ways of marketing as a company. In the smartphone market they are currently bullying others with extremely stupid "patents" asking to BAN the competitors they accouse...
Please stay on topic.
WingedZephyr
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Apple advertise that they are the best of the best and achieve this with their lower range of products, namely the ipod.
if we can buy an ipod and love it, we can buy an apple computer and love it too as it goes with the ipod.
Apple is just overpriced, but you know that you are going to get quality goods/service for that price.
PCs are priced how they are because they don't get warranties, they age particularly fast and if it breaks, you fix it or pay to get it fixed.
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Apple advertise that they are the best of the best and achieve this with their lower range of products, namely the ipod.
if we can buy an ipod and love it, we can buy an apple computer and love it too as it goes with the ipod.
Apple is just overpriced, but you know that you are going to get quality goods/service for that price.
PCs are priced how they are because they don't get warranties, they age particularly fast and if it breaks, you fix it or pay to get it fixed.
Whilst a generally agree, the latter not necessarily true; custom build PC's usually are equally priced or cheaper than premade ones and tends to be of higher quality. Of course you gotta put it together yourself (of find someone to do it for you) but you get warranty for each individual component rather than a universal warranty for the computer itself which only lasts 1-2 years. Some components such as graphics cards, several manufacturers offer up to LIFETIME warranty! And many brands in these markets are very serious about the quality and support. It is, as mentioned, rather a hassle if you are unfamiliar with it and don't know what you are doing but in the end you do get the good quality and all that you get from Apple.
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I'm honestly surprised this didn't turn into a huge flame war, However my opinion PC is better, but then again I have a very ... "Customized" version of windows, and I'm a hard core gamer. The only thing in my opinion that a Pro for Mac is that hardly anyone writes viruses for them
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I'd say PC. I was just discussing this with my mother, who was considering a Macbook. Personally, I have a bitter hatred for Macs because 90% of my Windows programs don't have Mac versions. And the ones that do are things like Microsoft Office. The dock takes up most of the screen(unless you shrink it) and those familiar with the Windows interface will have to get used to the Mac interface.
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Just use Linux and all problems are solved! Belive me. (okay that's not totally true)
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Mac basically is just another flavor of *nix I must agree tho that there interface is very funky compared to other *Nix and Windows. (Maybe its just because I had a mac from the 1980's XDDD)
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Just a preference but. I'm a P.C.guy.
What do you guys prefer.
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I think we just had this thread a few months ago, but I'm still gonna say PC.
Better support, better customizing, more widely supported, and can be relatively cheap when new.
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Unlocked the previous topic and merged together.
I personally prefer PC. It gives you more possibilities and freedom (especially if you ignore the last operating system W8, which is a horrid Apple wannabe made for touch screens and not regular computers/advanced users), and there are more games and software available for you.
I am also going to skip over Apple's policies and marketing, because that could become a topic of its own and far too intricate for me to even want to start. This includes iPhone. The bottom line is that I think it's utter BS.
The only way I will ever agree with someone that chooses an Apple product is either...
A) They are producing music. Music editing software runs better (if not only) on iOS and you will simply have a much easier time if you're using Mac.
B) It's an iPod Nano. I own one of these, and for a reason. Despite how little I agree with Apple products, I do love the iPod Nano. You could hurl it into a wall and then stomp on it, and it will still play your music. The screen is nice, the size is perfect, it's smooth and easy to use, with lots of "handy" features without overwhelming you. I have also yet to find a music player that can replace iTunes. It too has some nifty features such as playlists that will update constantly with your "top 100 songs played within the last 3 months, that has not been skipped a single time within that period, that is rated 3/6 stars or more, and has not been played the last 2 weeks".
So yeah. I'm a Puncia, and I'm a PC.
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Any gaming you do on mac.or p.c. I recremend.using Game Booster. It actually helps.
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Any gaming you do on mac.or p.c. I recremend.using Game Booster. It actually helps.
And me on the other hand would not recommend it. On any PC with decent specs it does more bad than good because it kills vital system services to free up memory. And when a 4GB RAM kit can be found at less than $25 and 8GB for less than $50 (if playing games, 4-6GB tends to be enough and 8GB is overkill) I think that's a much more useful solution than have a program mess with what programs and services you have running which can cause things to crash.
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I was not aware of this. Well thanks for the heads up.