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Furry Chat => General => Topic started by: Moxx on August 22, 2011, 06:17:50 AM
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This is an open ended discussion question
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Eh, as far as I see it, people don't really mind furries, its just that they don't know much about them, if anything.
Some people think we're weird, or crazy and some don't really have a problem with it at all. Its just who you meet.
But IF it became mainstream, then it would be kinda a win/lose situation, because yea, we'd have MANY more people bashing us, and belittling us, but there would be much more knowledge about us and after awhile, most of the stereotyping would die down, and we could be considered as "normal".
That, and more furs would be bound to show up. Some of them would be for real, and others would be posers, but who can stop someone from being fake? :P
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If it was mainstream or considered "normal" I think that it would be pretty much like being gay in these days. LOTS of people hate it and think its disgusting, but also its becoming widely accepted, as people open their minds to it.
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Would you personally still be "into" it if it were mainstream? I know some of my friend only like people before they're famous like bands and stuff "oh I listened to them before anyone knew about them but now they're all mainstream so they suck"
Do you think we'd see a decline in TRUE furry fandom if a bunch of little hollywood tweens got into it because it was "cool"?
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this will happen when we become as accepting as Anime/Manga. If it get's to that, everyone would know Furries as much as Anime/Manga. Most people either like it or don't care. I kinda don't care about Anime, watch it here and there.
Here's the thing about Anime Fandom, it's practically backed by an entire country (Japan) and the Japanese. So not many bash Anime.
Here's the thing about Furry Fandom, it's not backed by any country, instead we are backed with animals. And many think it's stupid. SO many bash Furries, on the Internet.
Either way, it has gotten a lot better than 10 years ago. Maybe 10 years later, it would be close to the popularity of Anime Fandom.
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then I would be wearing a tail and collar to school 24/7 :P i think it may be like that in a few years
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i kinda hope it doesn't. i like my secluded drinks with fellow furries in bars late at night. when that number of furries gets one or two zeros on the end it kinda ruins it
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i kinda hope it doesn't. i like my secluded drinks with fellow furries in bars late at night. when that number of furries gets one or two zeros on the end it kinda ruins it
kinda like anime, i remember my cousin, he was an otaku since like ever and it started out as a group of 6 or so talking about anime, now it's 50 and he hates it.
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i could imagine all the true furries turning into hipster furs
then civil war would break out between new furs and old furs
then people loses interest and everyone turns into a bronie...
the end
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Would you personally still be "into" it if it were mainstream? I know some of my friend only like people before they're famous like bands and stuff "oh I listened to them before anyone knew about them but now they're all mainstream so they suck"
Do you think we'd see a decline in TRUE furry fandom if a bunch of little hollywood tweens got into it because it was "cool"?
well i guess we would have to class ourselves as extreme furries or as furry veterans (fur before the mainstream audience)
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If it was mainstream or considered "normal" I think that it would be pretty much like being gay in these days. LOTS of people hate it and think its disgusting, but also its becoming widely accepted, as people open their minds to it.
This is what I was thinking. And I think that eventually, like homosexuality, it'll become acceptable by society to be a furry. Although, if being a furry was mainstream, it'd be kind of boring to me because then there'd be fake furs and people being furries just for attention, and that would get annoying (As if trolls weren't bad enough XD).
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I wouldn't like it if it did. i like it how it is now, but if it did i would still be part of the fandom and allthough i would be an organal. if it did become main stream there would be to many people that just join for the hell of it like the anime fandom, people would know more about it but then it would lose its mystery, some of you know how much where trolled now, imagine if we become main stream.
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I think alot of people become furries simply because of the fact that we are so different than the rest of the world. That's why you see so many furs that have traits that may be better known but still wouldn't be accepted in alot of places - for example alot of us have some kind of disability, and alot of us have much broader sexual preferences than the rest of the world would find acceptable. We are much more open-minded than the average person, and in general most of us avoid strict rules, religious or otherwise. So the fandom becomes a haven for people that feel they don't fit in with the ordinary world. If being furry became a normal and well-known thing, I think it would lose its mystery and its potency as a haven for us weird people, so to speak.
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Furries would be able to derp in their collars and fursuits everywhere, which would be awesome.
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I think I wouldn't have to worry about being judged for what I'm into. This is saying that it's gone beyond the point of where gay's are now...that it's mainstream and widely accepted. I don't think I'd care one way or another if it became mainstream. I work at hot topic, so I deal with all sorts of fake hipsters all the time. It's the company you keep, my friends, not the group you are guilty by association with.
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once the "fad" has died down only the true furrys who where apart of the fandom beacuse they want to be not beacuse its cool would be left.
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Would you personally still be "into" it if it were mainstream? I know some of my friend only like people before they're famous like bands and stuff "oh I listened to them before anyone knew about them but now they're all mainstream so they suck"
Do you think we'd see a decline in TRUE furry fandom if a bunch of little hollywood tweens got into it because it was "cool"?
well i guess we would have to class ourselves as extreme furries or as furry veterans (fur before the mainstream audience)
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i wouldnt like it while it lasted(though i could get away with wearing a tail to graduation) the result would be many,many arguements,but i would ride out the storm, so to speak.
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so it seems to me that most furries enjoy being furry because of what it means to a fur to them, but also because its a low-profile fandom with alot fewer people than most other fandoms so were different, by far xD well once it becomes popular many its not fun being like everyone else, and it'd be hard to fight a tag along saying that you've been into for years when you've been hiding it. were special because we know what a true furry is, so the only thing that i would hate is people wouldn't exactly know what a furry is, they join to be cool like everyone else has said. they know what the pictures are and they would just wear tails and ears like other saying their furries, but i feel like if you don't feel furry on the inside too, your posing. know what i mean?
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yes i know excaitly what u mean.
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I was having a conversation with my friend the other day about hipsterdom. He put it: "According to the internets furries are mainstream now, making you hipsterly!"
So maybe we are becoming mainstream if that's what others are hearing.
More on topic, It wouldn't effect me much, most people around here know about furries and either are furries or just don't care much, and on the internet most people I talk to know about it and furries being mainstream likely wouldn't effect their view.
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so it seems to me that most furries enjoy being furry because of what it means to a fur to them, but also because its a low-profile fandom with alot fewer people than most other fandoms so were different, by far xD well once it becomes popular many its not fun being like everyone else, and it'd be hard to fight a tag along saying that you've been into for years when you've been hiding it. were special because we know what a true furry is, so the only thing that i would hate is people wouldn't exactly know what a furry is, they join to be cool like everyone else has said. they know what the pictures are and they would just wear tails and ears like other saying their furries, but i feel like if you don't feel furry on the inside too, your posing. know what i mean?
i know this is why i would hate it ; because there are so few who are not "going through the motions"(so to speak) to fit in.
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I think every "style" feels like this however. Like goths would hate me because I'm not like a goth, however I only dress in monochrome and dye my hair black. Metalheads despise teenagers that wear band shirts they don't even listen to. Kids that call themselves emo when they're not acting like one, being emotional, probably annoys some too.
It's not something that can be avoided.
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its still irritating though.
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Iwouldn't care either way...i'd still be apart of it no matter what...and I know that if it were to happenthere would be a lot of "posers" in it whoare in to it becasue it's "cool" not becasue of the real reasons...it would make wearing a collar and stuff easier to do in public...without getting weird looks....not to mention the ways to aquire a fursuit would be easier and probably cheaper...as companies would take advantage of that and make a market for it.....
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It'd be like bronies and the new MLP show. Heck, they even had an article on the front page of the Wall Street Journal about it last Friday with absolutly nothing negative in it.
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It'd be like bronies and the new MLP show. Heck, they even had an article on the front page of the Wall Street Journal about it last Friday with absolutly nothing negative in it.
but that's a single T.V.Show...sure itmay have spawned a little fandom from it....but nothing compared to the Furry Fandom
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massporduction of fur suits ? hmm that might be a good thing... it would give some of the furs who really wanted one a fur suit. hell i could get one of my fursona in stead of a caracter i took on that the suit was made for.
yeah some people do give werid looks for wereing a collar in puplic but thats part of the fun of been a furry. if every one did it it wouldnt be fun at all.
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massporduction of fur suits ? hmm that might be a good thing... it would give some of the furs who really wanted one a fur suit. hell i could get one of my fursona in stead of a caracter i took on that the suit was made for.
yeah some people do give werid looks for wereing a collar in puplic but thats part of the fun of been a furry. if every one did it it wouldnt be fun at all.
Yeah I guess, or be awesome since lot of people wear collar to places and less weird looks would be given.
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i could care less about the weird looks for my collar, though i would like to wear my tail more often.
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So you do actually care what others think of it since you could actually care less than what you do now?
Sorry, but as a foreigner I never understood how something as literal as "could care less" managed to change its meaning while becoming a slang. I could actually care less about it, to put it like that. :P
Anyhow, I agree and hope that others do too about wearing a collar in public. A collar is so much more than a furry thing. It could symbolise a lot within the S&M culture, as well as just be a cool accessory without any meaning whatsoever. Where does the line go between a fashionable choker and an animal collar?
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yes. lo, for deep inside of me there is a sliver,NAY!!!, a fragment, of mine self-awareness that doth care the least little bit.
(sorry we have been studying shakespere and the urge to talk in medieval tounge was killing me.)
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It'd be awesome.
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Its a slow process but I do see progress within the past few years actually.
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All the hipsters would leave. :P
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For me if this were to happen then I'm out; for good. I'm a rebel of society and a nonconformist. Almost everything everyone else considers cool is what I consider uninteresting. For example: Everyone in my school has school spirit except me and a majority of my friends (I can actually sleep through noisy pep assemblies and have done it three times in my whole high school career XP ), I find everyone into some type of sport except me, I have never been peer pressured into anything (except buying Halo 3 because my friends wanted me on), I hang out with four other furries/scalies on a regular basis and have almost been expelled for being one (On Furry Pride Day), and I DO NOT like Reeses Peanut Butter Cups. I am also not a Brony because that show isn't badass enough for my tastes.
Being a Furry is one trait of mine that made me, well, me... I'd drop out not because I'm a hipster and think that it's too mainstream; but because I lose a part of myself that I can never get back. I really hope that this doesn't become mainstream. A lot of my uniqueness comes from the whole furry lifestyle. I love to stand out of the crowd and to be the one who's not afraid to voice his own actions. I want to express myself like the few that came before me, not because I want to inspire others to do so, but as a mode of expression for a guy who is always oppressed everytime he comes home, has no one to trust in that lives with him, and is suffering from depression due to many external factors that have occurred in my lifetime. Everytime I get home from school I feel sad that nobody gets me. I want to be free! I want to stand out and find a sense of great belonging to a few who I can really trust. If given the choice of a thousand friends that can only be taken at face value or a choice of five lifelong friend that will stand by you in every single step of life then damnit, my choice is clear: Five Friends, one's who will truly care about you like they were your own family; a wolfpack; a flock; squadron; etc.
I'd be broken if this ever becomes mainstream. When I became a Furry I never felt so alive. I was always having my dreams crushed by fear, fate, and just damn luck. My uniqueness is the one thing I still hold on to and a central aspect of that is my Furry Fandom. There's a lot of things in my life I wish I could fix, but somehow I felt like I was cheated. I don't blame anything but luck. I used to want to be a fighter pilot; then I found out I was colorblind. I wanted to be a soldier at the age of 15 (In the Philippines it was a mandatory thing for all HS students) and continue on as Special Forces, denied. I wanted go to America; then I found out that this place wasn't what I expected it to be. Two divorces, some child abuse, and a fair dash of alienation later it seems as though every dream I ever want to be is just gonna get crushed in the long run except writing and being a Furry. If I ever lost either of those dreams then I'm screwed. I'd burn my Buizel suit and have to rewrite and/or delete all my writings. I'd be lost, confused, and feel just as helpless as I did during my childhood.
...But life goes on, and I have to live with it...
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Then i wouldn,t have to explain to everyone why i am allways wearing a collar, T_T gets annoying sometimes....
For the rest i wouldn,t really care....
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I dont know if people would eccept it. All of my friends know about my furryism and are totally fine with it. The even are ok with me wearing a tail to parties :P But im not sure if people would eccept it if it were mainstreem
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Well in that case I'm fine with that. If it becomes mainstream, but not that popular, then I'd still be in on it.
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If that'd be true, I wouldn't hide the fact I'm a furry. Probably I'd start wearing modified clothes as a fursuit (I don't think an actual fursuit would feel "real" enough) and maybe start saving money for a fur graft ;)
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If that'd be true, I wouldn't hide the fact I'm a furry. Probably I'd start wearing modified clothes as a fursuit (I don't think an actual fursuit would feel "real" enough) and maybe start saving money for a fur graft ;)
can they do that?
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can they do that?
Fur grafting? Supposedly. I think if the whole thing was socially accepted (or better, ignored), more people would want it and therefore create demand. I don't see any technical reasons as to why would it be impossible, so supply would have to follow.
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can they do that?
Fur grafting? Supposedly. I think if the whole thing was socially accepted (or better, ignored), more people would want it and therefore create demand. I don't see any technical reasons as to why would it be impossible, so supply would have to follow.
but it would involve killing an animal would it not?
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Please stay on topic.
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Or you could (well, maim and mutate, really) a micro-organism so that it would alter your dermal cells and cause that one disease... Ah what's it called... Anyhow hair grows on their entire body. Could cause that. Grafting fur onto human flesh could have disasterous consequences. Especially because we absorb and release material through our skin, covering it so completely may actually kill you over time.
I think that if the fandom went mainstream you'd end up with a large population of semi-fur: people who do it because it's fashionable. Could be disasterous for the fandom.
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Or you could (well, maim and mutate, really) a micro-organism so that it would alter your dermal cells and cause that one disease... Ah what's it called... Anyhow hair grows on their entire body. Could cause that. Grafting fur onto human flesh could have disasterous consequences. Especially because we absorb and release material through our skin, covering it so completely may actually kill you over time.
I think that if the fandom went mainstream you'd end up with a large population of semi-fur: people who do it because it's fashionable. Could be disasterous for the fandom.
A virus could perform gene therapy and fix everything, simply making the body to produce more, thicker and longer hair, possibly colored or if not, albino (so it can be dyed without problems). Hair grows on the entire body anyway, just not very thick. I had a synthetic fur graft in mind, so no animals harmed. Also, every mammal does the same stuff through the skin and it's not making any problems for them - and humans wear clothes that are more isolating than fur without dying of it.
Ahem.
Semi-fur population exists already and it's quite large as far as I can guess. That's not being exactly disastrous, I think it does confuse non-furs about the subject, but it's also beneficial as it subtly introduces it to them, too. It's hard to predict what consequences to expect.
Come to think of it, most probably it wouldn't be mentioned in schools anyway (because there would be no reason for it, really), however student's essays about the whole matter would be more frequent, so the actual knowledge (and not just acknowledgment of existence) would spread easier. That'd negate the confusion from non-furs, I suppose. As I said, it's difficult to estimate.
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im a real fur and im proud.
Post Merge: November 23, 2011, 06:30:44 PM
off topic side conversation has been moved to "possibilities and implications of having fur"