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Furry Chat => General => Topic started by: Kaprika on May 02, 2011, 03:41:59 AM
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as of tonight at 10:30 they announced the death of Osama bin laden.
he died sooner than the announcement from a bomb, but his body has been finnaly identified and he is oficcialy deceased.
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WE GOT HIM!!!!!
*puts on party music*
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took long enough >>
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I know, and I was about to find him...damn.... *puts away his maps and weapons*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZD4ezDbbu4
Has to be listened to!
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New information just came out stating that he was actually killed in a firefight with US assets. Which is what I was hoping for. I wouldn't have trusted the news if it had been a bomb or other airstrike used against him.
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Well, it's about time. And I've heard that it's been a bomb, or missile, and I've also heard it was a firefight. Is there an official statement saying it was a firefight?
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Yep. The official statement is that it was a firefight.
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Well even if it doesn't end terrorism, a lot of people are rather happy with the result.
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May our fallen soldiers finally rest in peace. *Raises glass in remembrance*
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Justice has been served.
*Walks into the sunset*
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*Raises bottle in remembrance* may all our soldier rest peacefully knowing that..........they get to kick his a** on the other side. ^_^
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he's been hiding in a hole in the desert for over a decade.why would they just randomly find him in a popular town 100km away from the capital? also at first they said he was buried at sea. now they're saying that they still have the body.
AND I hardly believe it could've been that easy. He may be a douche, but he's not stupid. he has countless doubles and guards etc. so no, I think he's still alive. PLUS when they captured saddam hussein they made a massive song and dance about it. with videos and crap loads of pictures. whereas they'res hardly anything for osama
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well with something like this you should always be suspiscious, but if it's true then great. A military guy has died in a battle. won't stop the war and definitely wont stop terrorism, but at least it's a morale boost to some people and might possibly shorten the lifespan of the Al-Qaeda name until we get some other scary monster to hide under our beds.
The flag waving, fist pumping, america f yeah is probably going to last a while, but as far as I'm concerned revelling in the death of a human being (not an evil monster, since that doesn't exist,) when the victorious side has done its fair share of both civilian casualties and civil rights violations is a bit hypocritical.
Not saying his death is a bad thing, just asking people to have a little balance. It's a screwed up situation and the faster it ends, the better.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but we should NOT be celebrating a man's death. he is a human, like all of us. and yes, I have an uncle that died in 9/11. he Was a firefighter and he went in to help out and never
came back. I still think every human life is the same and that we should at least be respectful about it. I think it's terrible that everyone is talking about it like its a good thing. I know it is in a few ways, but wedont
need to talk about it like that. its not tragic either, but its in some place in the middle.
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he's been hiding in a hole in the desert for over a decade.why would they just randomly find him in a popular town 100km away from the capital? also at first they said he was buried at sea. now they're saying that they still have the body.
AND I hardly believe it could've been that easy. He may be a douche, but he's not stupid. he has countless doubles and guards etc. so no, I think he's still alive. PLUS when they captured saddam hussein they made a massive song and dance about it. with videos and crap loads of pictures. whereas they'res hardly anything for osama
Given how much a boogyman Osama bin Laden has been, there is no way the US Government would have come out and said they killed him if they weren't 230% sure it was him.
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Death is public knowledge, so it isn't a violation of human rights.
Also there isn't thing wrong with taking out a head of a terrorist group, it won't stop them but it does harm them. It may even save inocent lives.
One simple request pics or it didn't happen...
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well i dont know, our government isnt past lying to us...theyve dont it many times before.
and with all out tech, military and a manhunt lasting that long i cant see how we couldnt find him sooner. im thinking mabey there saying they found him....perhaps to truely lure him out for real, cause if your a criminal, and you thought everyone thought you were dead..wouldnt you feel a little more able to walk about freely?? thinking nobody will be looking for you now.
i dunno...if he is then great, if not that whatever.
and for those that think this is wrong because he "is a human" remember that man has been killing man since the dawn of history...we are nothing more than intelligent animals. and they too kill one another for "acting out of line"
we are not gods...our lives are not "without value". yes we are inteligent so we can experience loss, and pain over a death...but in the big picture it is not wretched for one person to kill another...especialy in a war scenario
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but we should NOT be celebrating a man's death. he is a human, like all of us. and yes, I have an uncle that died in 9/11. he Was a firefighter and he went in to help out and never
came back. I still think every human life is the same and that we should at least be respectful about it. I think it's terrible that everyone is talking about it like its a good thing. I know it is in a few ways, but wedont
need to talk about it like that. its not tragic either, but its in some place in the middle.
i agreee....................but at least he saw teh eyes of his enemies b4..............they.........................yew kno......
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Yay. Finally this most quote quote "difficult" quote quote task is over. Now the government can shut up about trying to find him and try to do something that's actually useful with this war and their time. Killing him only made his friends ticked off, so now we're going after his friends, aren't we? What a beautiful little cycle. T.T Unlike random Osama, war is something that never seems to die...
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man shall be his own downfall. it is buried deep down in our nature to destroy. thats all i have to say.
What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?
Only the monstrous anger of the guns.
Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle
Can patter out their hasty orisons.
No mockeries for them; no prayers nor bells,
Nor any voice of mourning save the choirs, —
The shrill, demented choirs of wailing shells;
And bugles calling for them from sad shires.
What candles may be held to speed them all?
Not in the hands of boys, but in their eyes
Shall shine the holy glimmers of goodbyes.
The pallor of girls' brows shall be their pall;
Their flowers the tenderness of patient minds,
And each slow dusk a drawing-down of blinds.
by Wilfred Owen
1893-1918, written in 1917
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but we should NOT be celebrating a man's death. he is a human, like all of us. and yes, I have an uncle that died in 9/11. he Was a firefighter and he went in to help out and never
came back. I still think every human life is the same and that we should at least be respectful about it. I think it's terrible that everyone is talking about it like its a good thing. I know it is in a few ways, but wedont
need to talk about it like that. its not tragic either, but its in some place in the middle.
and for those that think this is wrong because he "is a human" remember that man has been killing man since the dawn of history...we are nothing more than intelligent animals. and they too kill one another for "acting out of line"
we are not gods...our lives are not "without value". yes we are inteligent so we can experience loss, and pain over a death...but in the big picture it is not wretched for one person to kill another...especialy in a war scenario
life is life, and it is not for any man or woman to decide that any other man or woman's life need be taken. murder is murder. many drank to death last night, I drank to forget that other "intelligent beings" were drinking to murder. Regardless of actions committed by Osama Bin Laden he was still a person. We have no authority to decide if death is truly justice when justice is in itself an abstract value.
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what someone believes to be justice is up to them, not anyone else to tell them they are wrong. And oddly enough you say you "drank" to forget that other "intelligent beings" were drinking at the death of someone. Drinking to forget something isn't the smartest thing just saying. The point is, you may not see death as justice, but others do. So who are you to judge them and say they are wrong if you already admitted that justice is "abstract"?
Another note, killing one person to save the lives of others isn't right? Its better for us to of catpured him, and losses more people because we are trying to hold on to him?
IMO I think not…
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and who says all of us drank to the death of osama? alot of people would have drunk to the memory of their loved ones, who may have been killed or wounded by the group that osama led. so with his now dead all those deaths arn't a pointless, it can be easier to accept a tragety if it's not a pointless waste.
Move him into the sun—
Gently its touch awoke him once,
At home, whispering of fields unsown.
Always it awoke him, even in France,
Until this morning and this snow.
If anything might rouse him now
The kind old sun will know.
Think how it wakes the seeds—
Woke, once, the clays of a cold star.
Are limbs so dear-achieved, are sides
Full-nerved,—still warm,—too hard to stir?
Was it for this the clay grew tall?
—O what made fatuous sunbeams toil
To break earth's sleep at all?
by Wilfred Owen
1893-1918, written in 1918
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life is life, and it is not for any man or woman to decide that any other man or woman's life need be taken. murder is murder. many drank to death last night, I drank to forget that other "intelligent beings" were drinking to murder. Regardless of actions committed by Osama Bin Laden he was still a person. We have no authority to decide if death is truly justice when justice is in itself an abstract value.
Gonna hop in to say that I agree with Self-Sain. This guy is/was responsible for the deaths of countless innocents, numerous American soldiers, and (to be honest) thousands of his own people too. With this in mind, how can you judge another for drinking to a death that may finally bring closure to any number of people who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks nearly a decade ago and in all of the warring since?
No one's drinking to "murder". Their rejoicing may overlap with the death of another human, but no one is celebrating his death for the sake of celebrating death in general. If you really think that human emotion is that shallow, then perhaps you're the one who needs to do some thinking here about what you drink to.
Alternatively, just a quick assessment from your post, I'm going to guess that you're religious in some way. Or perhaps just an intense pacifist. Either way, riddle me this: what does your god say about murdering innocents, and what does he say about ending another person(s) life in order to save lives? Which do you think is the more worthy cause?
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I think this is a good time for this conversation to end.