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Furry Chat => General => Topic started by: Groo on December 16, 2010, 03:04:01 AM
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This is a question I always ponder... Any theory's why? If your wondering, I am gay.
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I think it's because the fandom is more accepting of people who are "different" (in terms of what society deems normal). I don't believe there are more homosexuals in the fandom, I believe that people are just more open about their sexuality in the fandom since we're all so much more accepting than the rest of society.
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I agree with Vee 104%.
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Vee is right. Furries are generally more accepting of people than today's regular society.
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I once read an article on the fandom that claimed that the fandom "lowered the walls of social expectations" meaning that people can be more accepting of other sexualities. I think it's true
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I think it's because the fandom is more accepting of people who are "different" (in terms of what society deems normal). I don't believe there are more homosexuals in the fandom, I believe that people are just more open about their sexuality in the fandom since we're all so much more accepting than the rest of society.
Well I dont mean more homosexuals than straight people, but a larger percent of the fandom is homosexual than the percent of homosexuals overall. But i agree with you, Its easier to come out in the fandom than in anywhere else. It seems to be teh same way with the Anime fandom.
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I agree with Vee. Who knows how many homosexual people fake their sexuality on these surveys. You probably only see more in the furry fandom because we're less prejudiced than many others.
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Maybe it's psychologically related.
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There are often a lot more straight people in the fandom that you might think. They just aren't usually as vocal about it. Not that it's a good or a bad thing, just how it is.
But as for fandom vs. general society, I agree with Vee.
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This is such an interesting topic.. I agree with all that Furrys are more accepting.. Wish more people thought like us..
Quite a few of my friends know I'm bisexual.. The guys usually say 'please film it' "/.. And the girls instantly think I love them.. Neither being a good reaction.. I don't know what anyone would say if they knew I secretly wished I was a gay guy.. That's actually the first time I've admitted that!
The world is such a horrid place!!!
Xox
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Simple. The furry fandom, and the internet in general, is formed by LOTS of VERY different people. Furries in specific tend to be more open-minded about sexual themes (in case it wasn't already obvious). Society on the other hand is led by trends and the necesity of acceptance through the method of 'going with the flow'. That means anything that goes against the popular culture is 'uncool', 'weird'.
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'Uncool' I can sort of accept from society, everyones trying to be like their favourite popstar and follow fashions etc "/.. No one knows how to be their own person!
But the term 'weird' really gets my back up!! Why?! If were in love and happy, does it matter where it is?? In some places its actually still illegal to be gay!! How can you make a law about love?! More people should think like us, the world would be a better place! :( x
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At the end of the day, in general, furries are way more accepting to those society throws out. If I hadn't joined the fandom I'd still be the depressed homosexual teenager I was before...
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Not wanting to argue about being gay or not, I'll just say some people are more open minded than others. We are bound to our human way of seeing the world, and each person develops a different vision of it. Guided by instinct and the curse of self-awareness, we sometimes derail from what was was meant to be. And then again, who are we to say how things are supposed to be? An open mind is something most of society lacks. In my personal view, rather than being bothered (though sometimes it does get under my skin), I pity those people.
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Thats true. Tbh, anyone who can't take the fact people are different are worse than those who are different themselves.
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Yeah, Many
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I agree with the the fandom is more accepting than society statement.
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The fandom... Perhaps its not acceptance, insomuch as it is relation. I'm not saying furries need be gay, instead I am stating that, as social pariah's, in general, I see the furry population as being more accepting of outcasts. This, of course, would mean that it does not matter if your gay, or anything really. Kind of a 'fellowship' in the fact of being rejected by the masses.
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The fandom... Perhaps its not acceptance, insomuch as it is relation. I'm not saying furries need be gay, instead I am stating that, as social pariah's, in general, I see the furry population as being more accepting of outcasts. This, of course, would mean that it does not matter if your gay, or anything really. Kind of a 'fellowship' in the fact of being rejected by the masses.
Bingo, Spot on man
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Well I dont mean more homosexuals than straight people, but a larger percent of the fandom is homosexual than the percent of homosexuals overall. But i agree with you, Its easier to come out in the fandom than in anywhere else. It seems to be teh same way with the Anime fandom.
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well... i dunno about you guys, but i think its not just in the fandom, i think its just, wherever is cyber, its more easier, why? because you don't seem those poeple. if they are meanto you, you just switch forum, site, whatever, you can't just switch citys in real life... well.. my boyfriend thinks the same as i, ijust tough we might not be alone to think that...
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I would have to agree that on the internet people are more open. I also think this has alot to do with the fandoms idea of using a fursona so that you can come off as anyone (and anything) you want to be while still protecting your real world identity if you so choose.
Not to mention that we Furries like to stick together so we are alot more accepting to peoples sexualities, quirks etc.
My two cents
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I don't believe the "internet" is more accepting places like "4chan" ect, trolls every where, you just don't give it two looks, because they might as well not be real.
Th fandom over all is more accepting, I mean how can the "trash" of society turn away others, that makes us no better then the "trolls".
And many, just watch how you word things, that could be taken the wrong way, it almost sounds like that you are implying that there is something wrong with them to began with.
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I don't believe the "internet" is more accepting places like "4chan" ect, trolls every where, you just don't give it two looks, because they might as well not be real.
Th fandom over all is more accepting, I mean how can the "trash" of society turn away others, that makes us no better then the "trolls".
And many, just watch how you word things, that could be taken the wrong way, it almost sounds like that you are implying that there is something wrong with them to began with.
Thats why i mentianed the fact i was gay. Theirs nothing wrong with it, in fact it is one of the many reasons i like the fandom :)
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Personally, my only issue with homosexuality is that it comes up so often >.> Really, what is, IS, why do people need to rant about the social or religious aspects of it>.> It aint like its new.
ANYHOW, more on topic, the Fandom is VERY accepting, I have found everything from Jugallo's to the most 'abnormal' people, EVER. Its not really who you are, its who's breaking the mold, IMO, just add a love for anthropomorphia and you have a furry..
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I don't believe the "internet" is more accepting places like "4chan" ect, trolls every where, you just don't give it two looks, because they might as well not be real.
Th fandom over all is more accepting, I mean how can the "trash" of society turn away others, that makes us no better then the "trolls".
And many, just watch how you word things, that could be taken the wrong way, it almost sounds like that you are implying that there is something wrong with them to began with.
:( :(
*Checks FAs front page*
You know what you are right. I dont know what I was thinking. Prejudiced jerks are on the internet just as much as real life T_T
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Thats true. Tbh, anyone who can't take the fact people are different are worse than those who are different themselves.
I was referenceing to this post
And aroen the reason it comes up so much is because there are still problems that must be dealt with but there has already been a topic for that
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In general the fandom seems to encourage people to explore their sexuality and this is facilitated by the lowered social expectations and the already large amount of LGBT individuals. It is also easier for individuals to accept themselves within an accepting and friendly community like the fandom.
On the topic of trolls; I believe that people who are prejudiced against certain sexual orientation are just trolls trying to justify their own insecurity.
Sadly life is a bridge, there are trolls everywhere D:
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I don't know now.. Have told all my closest friends I want to be a guy today, and only one had a problem with it.. So maybe society isn't so bad.. Hmmm...
Xox
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okay, i just read all of those post, and i really need to learn my english, seriously, i miss a lot of thing right now... but i get the basic idea...
i agree with you Sekoshi. I don't know now.. Have told all my closest friends I want to be a guy today, and only one had a problem with it.. So maybe society isn't so bad.. Hmmm...
Xox
their is a difference between friends en popularity in general... (sorry to say it that hard... i dunno how to say it so it doesn't sound like yelling at you, wich is false) (can you get my idea? O.o )
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I have vowed to never use the word "weird" because it can hurt others, just because someone isn't like the other person next to them dose not make them a bad thing, they are just different which is perfectly fine. :3
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i agree the only ppl who know my true sexuality are other furrys i dont really fell like i can tell ppl who arnt part of the fandom becuse there not excepting i act str8 i tell ppl iam str9 but iam really bi
Post Merge: December 22, 2010, 06:59:30 AM
In general the fandom seems to encourage people to explore their sexuality and this is facilitated by the lowered social expectations and the already large amount of LGBT individuals. It is also easier for individuals to accept themselves within an accepting and friendly community like the fandom.
On the topic of trolls; I believe that people who are prejudiced against certain sexual orientation are just trolls trying to justify their own insecurity.
Sadly life is a bridge, there are trolls everywhere D:
i agree with u most ppl who troll others 4 beeing gay or bi are usealy gay or bi them self and troll to make them self fell better about it
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Oh great elite speak…
Anyways, I don't see calling something weird bad, I mean we call things that we can't do stupid, its just a way of labeling things, not that big of a deal in my opinion
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Straights are the largest percentage of the fandom, but over half of the fandom is an alternate-sexuality.
But I agree with most of the other people that the fandom has lower social expectations so it's easier to be different here. Outside of the fandom people will likely judge you for who you are, in the fandom it seems people generally try not to.
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true but i guess ever one has stuff they want to hid out side of the fandom and can be more open about it in the fandom
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I think it's probably because furries think more openly than other people.
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that true that also another resin why i call my self a furry.... there is some stuff i will need to hide about my self from my mate, un less she feels the same way as i do and is accepting like iam... but beeing a furry iam not going to hide that ill tell her that iam a furry if she freaks ill just have to ex plane it to her
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Well she's in love with you, right? I'm sure she'll be cool with it :)
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no i dont have a mate yet... when i find one i have to make sure she is fine with it befor i tell her
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I'm sure whoever you find will be happy to have you no matter what you're into, as long as it's legal o.O
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no iam not talking about being a furry there .... iam talking about beeing bi ( more for girls though)
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In that case...
Trust me dear, in my opinion, men who are open-minded enough to consider having an intimate relationship with another man are quite awesome.
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thanks ... now only if my mom thought the same way ( freaked the last time i told her or tried to tell her i was bi) .... anything wrong with it if your mate is str8 and your not?
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Yes, and that's only if they care. Other than that, nope.
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ok check you pm i dont want to keep this off topic
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I'm pretty sure my potential mate would hate me for liking guys and girls..
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why would he/she hates you?
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because she's just that way
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Please stay on topic.
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I've found that people in the fandom, as many have said, are truly accepting to differences unlike people who uphold the 'norm'. For example, when I told my friends that I was bisexual, many of my male friends freaked or asked me if I was attracted to them. But my friends in the furry community were like, "Okay? So the problem is?". I guess we're just understanding.
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Yeah I agree with Cyril, here in the fandom it's completely okay for me to say I like guys :3
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It makes you feel good to say it. I LIKE GUYS. Ah, that's good for today. But we're all accepting.
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It does feel good to say...THE GUY FROM TRON IS SUPER HOT.
That is all :3
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I think Taylor Lautner is cute. I said it, yeah.
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And zak bagans, if you don't know him, google him X3
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Yes, yes. ;) I love that. Haha lol
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He can ghosthunt with me any day :3
okay back on topic!
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Not only are furries generally more socially accepting, the phenomenon is self-perpetuating. I do think there are legitimately more non-heterosexuals (myself included :3) in the furry fandom than in society at large. The accepting nature of the fandom creates an environment where people feel free to be open about themselves, which in turn attracts more non-heterosexuals looking for such a community, who then join the community, thereby making it more accepting...
...the cycle continues. And I'm glad for it - beyond simply being a hobby, I think the fandom provides a valuable resource for young people who feel marginalized by their peers for their interests, sexuality, or both, as it provides a place where they can openly explore such themes with other like-minded individuals.
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i agree with you , be for the fandom i wouldn't have accept my self for being bi because no one else did. i couldn't tell my friends when i was yonger and i dont think my paritns are accepting of it so they don't and wont know. all thought most furrys are str8 furs accept you for you
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^_^Ive been bi for as long as I could remember (leaning a little more towards guys). Its kinda hard keeping it in but I get used to it. I come from a really small school in the middle of nowhere and it seems everyones str8 so I avoid telling anyone. My parents are strongly against homosexuallity so I try to hide it from them too. My Dad dislikes his younger brother Lonnie for being gay (which I think is just stupid) and my mom dislikes him too. After seeing what they think of him I avoid comming out at all. In the fandom it seems people dont really mind the way one is. Just as long as their not a total freak.
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I agree, people in the fandom are generally more accepting than others. I'm srt8 and have no problem with others sexuality. :)
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i first noticed that i was bi in grade 7 so i think around age 12
thats good that you don't have a problem with it if there where more people that accepted people for they way they are the world would be better place. although iam bi i am more for girls then iam for guys. when i get marry( iam only 19 no mate yet but still have a long time for that) i hope my mate is as cool with it as every one here is. i was kind of surprised that every one here was so open minded about others.
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i first noticed that i was bi in grade 7 so i think around age 12
thats good that you don't have a problem with it if there where more people that accepted people for they way they are the world would be better place. although iam bi i am more for girls then iam for guys. when i get marry( iam only 19 no mate yet but still have a long time for that) i hope my mate is as cool with it as every one here is. i was kind of surprised that every one here was so open minded about others.
wow i noticed i was bi recently, and im in Grade 7 o.O
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i realized in grade 9.
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I figured out I was Bi in seventh grade but ive had to hide it.
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Please remember that this thread is about why it seems that homosexuality is more common in the fandom than in general society and not about when people came out as gay/bi/lesbian.
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I figured out I was Bi in seventh grade but ive had to hide it.
I don't think you should. I don't think ANY fur should. I think society should accept all furs (Sometimes just the mention of the word makes some people cringe and say 'That's gross.' I know from experience.) and their sexual orientations. Thirty years ago, it wouldn't matter, because people would have the sense to know you're a good person and toss aside the fact you're a fur and are gay, bi or lesbian. I've had to hide being a furry from everyone but my mom and my friend Matt (Both of whom don't care and like me for the person I am), but I've had to hide it from my dad. I'm straight, but I think he thinks of stereotypical furs as gay and he's strongly against that. Why is it that everyone thinks having a different sexual orientation is strange? :?
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I think that it's because people here are generally more accepting than other groups of people.
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@ sir crocodile
being a furry has nothing to do with who your sexuality, my parents know aim a furry o but they don't know to much about it( they wont let me where a collar , but i do when iam a lone ...dont have ears and a tail but iam going to get them ) . most of the furry Ive talked to that are not str8 tell me that they hid it from there parents, so i guess that we provide a safe place for people who are not str8 to express how they feel with out being judged
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Well actually I'm not Bi I am Pansexual but usually people don't see a difference. But to me it's very different than being Bi. ^_^
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My answer is generally similar to that of a lot of people here; because we're an affinity that's a little different from the societal norm we're more accepting of other people despite whom they are ;). And yeah, if you're wondering about mine-look at my siggy ;).
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I guess that makes sense that the furry demographic is more accepting of these things than non-furries, but I always though it was because some furries where hot or something and turned people into different sexualities because they felt attracted to it. I mean, I'm totally asexual in real life, but I've found a lot of furries attractive, mostly male ones.
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With Internet anonymity, people can be open about their sexuality without real repercussion, and homosexuality is far from the weirdest or most controversial thing floating around online. They just get less shit for it. I see it in a lot of online fandoms, really.