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UPDATE:
Hello again! So the side/torso markings have been redesigned (the side markings on the picture below are out-of-date, so please ignore them, as other markings have taken its place). That problem is outta the way! Woo!
Here is the update: Redesign Ventus (http://sta.sh/01obn8ke3owm)
(http://orig09.deviantart.net/a1f3/f/2016/140/d/5/venredesign_by_ventus_fall-da352pi.jpg)
However, she is not entirely done yet. If possible, I would still like to ask for help and ideas.
Something I noticed pretty early on, but wasn't bothered by, was the legs. The leg anatomy is what I've actually wanted for quite a while, however... Let's put it this way:
The whole body has simple -yet a variety- of markings, but then the legs. They barely have anything. It didn't bother me, yet I did think about it. It seemed a bit off. Then someone else pointed it out as well, and the thought grew and grew.
So this is my new question to anyone who would like to help/share ideas:
What can I add to the legs as markings or should I leave them as they are?
OLD/ORIGINAL POST:
Hey everyone :D
So I've been thinking for a long time how to design Ventus... differently. More... Ventus-y, more complex and yet simple at the same time?
Body type I have found out what I would like, changed already a few things. However, I need help with one area specifically.
The chest/torso (front) I need help with. Basically the chest-belly section.
As you can see here: Reference sheet anthro Ventus (OLD-ish) (http://ventus-fall.deviantart.com/art/Anthro-Ventus-reference-sheet-325996533) and here: Reference sheet feral Ventus (NEW-ish) (http://ventus-fall.deviantart.com/art/Reference-Sheet-Ventus-Fall-513905542)
that the (dark) red marking flows over the torso (front) area. It always felt a bit odd and maybe too simple for me.
So my question is:
What can I draw/put on the torso instead of just that red marking?
I'm looking for other 'textures' (fur short/long, feathers, scales, leathery skin, etc.) to other types of markings, to whatever. Anything goes. Anything would help. Preferably references with what you suggest would help me greatly (:
Thank you in advance.
Note: I may or may not go for any of the suggestions, but any reply would be extremely helpful with regards to my problem. So please keep suggestions coming, even if they're silly or bland! It can help me to give me an idea ^_^
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i like the idea of having a darker green leather/scaly patch their ^_^
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Interesting idea o:
Say, would it be a good idea to actually put up a progress thingey of her current design?
I mean, I might do it XD
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To make an update, I found out what to do for the front torso and side markings! ^^
Most of the markings have been refined or just redesigned entirely.
However, now I'm figuring out if the legs need anything special.
I'll update the first post to include the new question and add a link to the picture of the redesign so far.
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So I totally forgot to update this topic, but I have drawn a headshot of Ventus recently of the new design (as you might have noticed, since it's currently my profile picture :P).
I think I should include this, as it does have to do with the design.
(http://pre07.deviantart.net/ba6b/th/pre/f/2016/164/e/6/smirk_by_ventus_fall-da64a08.png) (http://ventus-fall.deviantart.com/art/SMIRK-614939048)
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Still busy with the redesign, now for a while I've been thinking if I should add the colour orange as well?
I think orange-green-purple is quite a nice combination. It's my favourite colour combination, but I already have red. I feel I shouldn't remove the red, but somehow place the colour orange alongside it.
What do you think?
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i think its a good idea.
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Maybe a simple pattern if orange in the purple, like little dashes along the length of the purple strides
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@shoon, @Razuel
Thanks for your input, guys, it means a lot you both took time to respond :')
Razuel, what do you mean exactly?
Do you mean the places that I've coloured purple on the stripe-markings over her body, that alongside it/in the purple area, I use the colour orange as well?
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Yeah, like some sort of pattern that's easy to draw, in or out of it, either would look good.
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I think I see what you mean, I'll try it out ^^
Thanks!
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Would you like me to add the changes to the request when I return?
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@ExoVenture:
Haha, thanks for asking, but nah x3
That's very kind of you, but when I did request, I knew I was redesigning. So it's totally fine *hugs* :P
But thanks again o3o
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Hey everyone!
So I haven't been really active lately with the redesign, however(!) I do have some small things and ideas written down and drawn out. I also drew Ventus' wings a while ago, so I'll hopefully share them some time annd see what kind of pattern (if any) I should draw on them :)
Just wanted to update everyone on the progress (:
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Got something to show as an update!
So after having drawn different side markings, and cleaning up the lines a bit, etc. etc...
I now have something to show!
I'm busy colouring... Here it is!
(http://orig10.deviantart.net/83ac/f/2016/225/0/7/venredesign_b_by_ventus_fall-dadqd2v.jpg)
I'm still busy deciding which hues of green I'm going to go for. The design of the green colours will stay very much similar to the old design, but I it still will be a tad bit different.
:D
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Looks good
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Thank you, Razuel :)
I'm working more on it today, so I hope I can post something later today, if not some time soon.
Post Merge: August 13, 2016, 06:55:26 AM
So I worked more on it yesterday and this morning:
(http://orig15.deviantart.net/68b8/f/2016/225/6/4/venredesign_c_by_ventus_fall-dadu6ir.jpg)
I'm just giving it quickly colour, and then I can play around with any orange colours and stuff after ^^
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green with red looks very pretty, i would love to see how i will look with the markings as i feel its a bit texture less.
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Thank you ^^
I see you're a silver-ish coloured derg, yush? o3o
Seeing how you're wearing a blue robe, perhaps some (dark )blue markings? Or purple?
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purple can work very well with the red, but it really depends what shade with the green, i somehow go to a more pinkish purple as i don't think the contrast will look as good with the green.
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So far I have this! ^^
Take note: Some of the grey is actually purple, but I haven't removed an extra colour layer from it yet. The purple is mostly on the places you can see in the original draft in the first post :)
(http://orig09.deviantart.net/419b/f/2016/227/3/c/venredesign_d_by_ventus_fall-dadz08z.jpg)
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oh okay, but if its the same shade as in the first photo i will actually might use a darker one i think.
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So, time for an update!
(http://orig04.deviantart.net/ddeb/f/2016/246/8/1/venredesign_e_by_ventus_fall-dagboyu.jpg)
I still need to edit the headspikes by adding dark purple at the tips (just like my current avatar picture), maybe changing the red fur at the top of the head to the main green colour, add some more various colours to the tail feathers, give the claws more of a darker grey colour, and still see if I can implement the orange.
A small note: The ball/pearl thing at the tail tip also will be coloured too.
(After the colours have been added in, I can mess around with adding some lighter and darker colours to create some shading/highlighting effect.)
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Noice, bruv!!
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Thanks, Razuel :D
I've actually edited the red fur on the top of the head, added the purple to the head spikes, and added some orange to the smaller (purple) markings, as well as finished colouring the tail feathers.
(http://pre10.deviantart.net/1265/th/pre/f/2016/246/4/b/venredesign_f_by_ventus_fall-dagci2a.png)
Next up the claws, bulb/tail thing, and the eyes.
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shades looking very good.
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Thanks, shoon ^_^
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ALRIGHT!
I think I got the whole design done (for the Anthro version). The colours, markings, everything! I even have made a neat colour palette (not shown on the image) and have some cool information on the eyes and the bulb on the tail.
The tail feathers, as you might have noticed, have turned from dark green to red.
Why?
Because the dark green didn't really fit anywhere. Sure, it was part of the green colour scheme, but I felt two different types of green was good enough, which are implemented on more than just one part of the body (the green and mint green). The dark green was only on the end of the tail.
So I decided: Either purple or red.
I decided for red, and change the end tail marking purple. It seems a lot more coherent now ^^
What do you guys think?
Here it is~
(http://orig00.deviantart.net/b9ee/f/2016/247/e/6/venredesign_h_by_ventus_fall-daggs23.png)
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very cool and deiteild! the red looks good with the tail, somewhat the feet color seems wierd but not in a bad way, would love to see a version with cloths.
so are you doing a feral version now?
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Scales such as on the top of his snout, or two horns on his snout, maybe even scales down the spine of his back instead of fur?
Since Ventus isn't your common anthro in the fandom, I'm trying to think outside the box, something you don't see often. Hope these help out with any idea's
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Zaida:
Hi Zaida! :D
I'll actually draw a dragon version, and now that you've mentioned it, I do want to add scales and/or horns to that design.
It means a lot you said that it isn't like a common anthro, and therefore you're thinking outside of the box. The ideas surely help, keep them rolling, please ;3
shoon:
I'll first have to colour the back-view (yes, I have that as well), and then I indeed intend to create a feral version. Ventus technically has two feral versions, a feral dragon version and a bunny version.
But the version I want to first work out is indeed the dragon one x3
I already know what body-type: Sleek, slender, and snake-y. Basically, an Eastern dragon type vibe :D
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Going to turn the tail tip back from feathers to loads of fur floof. Why? Because WHY DID I EVER WANT FEATHERS AS A TAIL TIP? Seriously, a big floofy tail end seems kind of symbolic like a paint brush, no? Maybe the end design of her feral dragon form will have feathers at the tail tip, but the big floof at the end will never vanish!
So bringing back the floof!
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So while I'm not showing an update by drawing, I've changed the tail end to a fur tip again. Feels much better :)
I am also thinking of removing the purple markings on the tail feathers though. But not entirely sure.
Anyone provide an opinion on that?
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I say leave them be, I think it looks cool.
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Thanks, Shoon :)
Kind of made an error in what I wrote, I see D:
The purple stripe markings on the tail feathers and the tail itself, if I should remove them?
I'm also thinking of removing the circle markings on the end of the tail feathers, or just making them only purple?
I dunno, I want to have something left on the tail feathers. I've always enjoyed the idea of there being like simple eye-markings on wings or tail feathers.
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I'm not sure I understand.
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Personally I like the purple stripes on the tail, especially the ring on the tail near the feathers. As for the ring on the feathers itself, I have the idea it'd look better for me if it was done in one colour. Though, a ring with a gradient with opposite colours make it look a bit more... mysterious? I can't find a word for it, but it's something like that.
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@Shoon: Which part don't you understand exactly? :)
@Michen: I am indeed very hesitant to remove the purple stripe markings, I feel something has to be there, and they seem to do the job and look nice.
So probably indeed change the rings on the tail feathers from two colours to one colour... yeah, sounds good. I will miss the orange though (and I understand the mysterious part, it has a rather distinctive feel/ambience to the two colours like so). I wanted to have purple and orange as new colour integrated in the design. Not sure if you happen to have any ideas what I can do with the orange?
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I'm not sure since I don't understand... silly me.
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Your fursona is very detailed already, I don't know where you can use it now.
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I appreciate everyone's comments, talking about the subject, discussing the design, coming up with your own ideas. It's what I've needed, and it makes me feel awesome to see this happening.
That brings me to an update with the design.
I\m most likely going to remove the tail feathers in its entirety. The tail end will have floof (still need to show an updated version), and a few other small updated design-things! ^^
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I should by now probably post pictures as a way to show progression. It's been a while since I updated this, but things have indeed been updated and changed.
I indeed removed any feathers. Besides having kind of a reptilian/beak shaped muzzle, there isn't really anything feathery-related. Unless you would take her wings into consideration, but that's for later, that part of the design.
Instead of tail feathers, I felt I needed to add a thing, so like glow-y antennae on head and pertruding from her neck and end of the tail.
So yup!
I am still thinking about adding potentially scales (besides their feral, full dragon form), but really unsure still.
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Sounds interesting, Is there an updated picture?
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This sounds nice! ^_^ I would love to see how Ventus is evolving!
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Update time.
So I've been busy with designing and redesigning Ventus.
I've uploaded two attachments (so they'll get removed after a while, I assume, so stare at them while you can :P) and one image link.
(http://orig14.deviantart.net/c14c/f/2017/190/0/9/venredesignv2_by_ventus_fall-dbfp9k0.jpg)
Major changes:
The uploaded image (the link one) is what I currently have. I changed the tail end back to a fluffy one and added other glowy appendices. Two on her head, two on her shoulders.
Also changed her eye colour.
However, thinking of it now, I decided to use a Dragon 'doll maker' by Wyndbain to get an idea how to fix a few problems of her design. E.g. her legs seemed to be 'less busy' than her arms.
There are also other issues I'm tackling with with her design, but that's something I'll keep a secret until I am closer to finishing the design o3o
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I love the glowy tail!
Looks so cool
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Thank you! :D
I intend to keep it o3o
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Looks good so far. It's amazing to see how far stuff have gone since the begging.
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Oh cool, the glowing tail is definitely cool!